Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Julius "Marvelous" Rain
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Julius "Marvelous" Rain
you guys really shouldn't get too excited by guzman. yea he beat soto.....and? p4p top 3 contender are you kidding me? guzman prolly only has 3 fights left in him before weight issues or someone like jmm or pac puts him back in the shadows his always been in.

guzman should fight kat or valero. if he gets past those two then he can try his luck with jmm or pac. I think guzman is top soft for jmm and pac. these two are just hard mofo, jmm and pac are the only elites left. Nobody will really stand in there way except for eachother.
Guzman is number 3 at the weight.And I'm not even a fan of his. He would give both JMM and Pacman trouble with his style.And Guzman is anything but soft . I don't think he's ever been down and I've never seen him hurt.

Where the heck is Kkisser,seriously,he is the only Manny fan that actually knows his boxing.Most other Pacman fans start trying to diss any percieved "threat" to their fighter. Soto is a more dangerous and live opponent than MAB/Morales the third and Solis.By far and away.
why em i not suprise, el gamo quick to bash pac fans but his as bias as any other fan. thinking his opinions are always better. wow and you said soto is more dangerous than mab/morales the third and solis?? well in your oppinion yes since pac is done with all three of them. what do you think soto will do any better then mab/em and solis? the em that fought pac the third time is the only man who has hit and beat pac the hardest. Pac just overcame him that does not mean soto is any better. well its always the same, the guys pac hasn't fought are better then the guys he has already finished off.

guzman jmm will be nice and all but pac jmm is the truth! i don't see why in the world would anybody think a fight with guzman will be any better? as old as guzman is, his still a level below jmm and pac. guzman can look good with guys like soto well thats becuase soto is nowhere near jmm or pacs level. its a whole new league with these two, guzman can't act all pretty and pose against them. They ain't soto.
Bias as any other fan?I have Manny as P4P top 3. Humberto Soto is more dangerous than faded version of MAB and Morales and Solis. If you don't think so,then you need to do some research and actually watch some fights. And where have I written that I think my opinion is better?

Although I certainly would like to think I justify my opinion more than certain posters who say fighters who have never been knocked out are too "soft" to fight other fighters. I gave Manny full credit for his wins over Morales the first 2 times,just because I don't kiss his ass when he beats faded fighters(MAB and Morales the third time) or unknowns(Solis) doesn't make me "biased".
no real point argueing. just do yourself a favor gamo and learn a few things from taeth. mab and em would of beaten anybody in the division besides pac and prolly jmm. its just the way pac beat them that makes fans like you think boxers pac hasn't fought are better. But like always after each pac fight guys like you are proven wrong and left with no choice to leave your hope on the next no-hoper that pac will beat. Jmm is who you guys should stick to, kuz ain't nobody but jmm can soundly beat pac. Its between those two really. Just kuz guzman beat soto doesn't make him suddenly in the elites. And jmm and pac are the only two elites left. Pac has taken out two of the other elites, thats why a fight with jmm is the best possible match. Any other fight for pac will be a waste of time kuz by the end of the fights pac proves guys like you wrong again. And if it wasn't jmm who he beat it would of meant nothing cause jmm is who he needs to fight and vise versa for jmm.

pac and jmm are like isreal and rafa at bantamweight. they are just a level above everyone else. guzman level wise is like caballero and valero is like de leon. Atleast it my oppinion and im sure jmm and pac will continue to prove how much above they are against the rest.