If we're talking about the greatest AMATEUR boxers Ali isn't in the top spot in that either....Stevenson and Savon might have an argument there

The true champions force their will on a fight until it is won, they do not resort to piddly mind games and name calling.

Louis and Marciano had iron wills and they would never give in...someone could outbox them for 14 rounds and 2 minutes and still lose by KO.

And there is another thing which might knock Ali down a peg in my eyes is the fact everyone thinks he's such a gracious kind person BULLSHIT you cannot champion a cause like CIVIL RIGHTS and then use racial slurs to mentally shake your opponents. Ali was a great fighter but in no way was he a great person.

What you're basically saying about Ali is that the ERA made him great and not his successes alone.


Don't hold Joe Louis' and Rocky Marciano's ERAs over their careers they did the best they could and they were better than Ali in a result oriented review of their careers
I'm really considering dropping this debate with you as you seem to be letting personal views and opinions cloud your boxing knowledge.

The era did make him great. The 60's and 70's were a wonderful couple of decades for the heavyweight division with a number of legitimately great fighters. Ali beat the cream of the crop in that era.....
Would Marciano have done the same? Would he have survived against Foreman
He outboxed Liston....Would Louis have done the same?

In short I don't think so, I feel Ali would have only been consider greater had he fought Marciano and Louis.