Yea i mean the guy was one of the first to actual box and he had great legs not as great as Ali's legs but hes up there. I mean he only lost once to Harry Greb and then came back and beat him 3 times and then total owns Dempsey he won 19 rounds out of the 20 they fought yet people think of that long count stuff. I would pick Gene Tunney to win over any heavyweight from the 1900's to the 1950's. Yea that means yea i think he beat Johnson, Louis, Marciano, Charles, Walcott, and Patterson Gene Tunney is no doubt a top 10 heavy he really needs to get more credit then he does.