Hatton in 'best ever condition'

**Tysonbruno** · 11-21-2007 05:12 PM

Hatton is in good shape for this fight or great shape for that fight or not so good for the other fight but Mayweather is always in great shape training or not i think Ricky's in for alot of trouble this ain't old Tszyu or Castillo or even nobody Urango this is Floyd Mayweather get ready for ricky's 0 to go

**Mar** · 11-21-2007 05:51 PM

I think conditioning wise hatton will be more than ready, it's skill wise that worries me about hatton. I belive he will give a great effort and leave he and his fans nothing to be ashamed of.

**Sundiata** · 11-21-2007 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Muzzo

here's a link to an interview on bbc.com along with a new pic of Hatton,looking good

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7102483.stm

Hmm, wasn't De La Hoya in "the best shape of his life" before he got outpointed for 12 rounds? It's a common theme with these guys.

**Cortez The Killer** · 11-21-2007 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Muzzo

here's a link to an interview on bbc.com along with a new pic of Hatton,looking good

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7102483.stm

I just read the article and thought it was entertaining. But there was a lot of BS in it. All that "Mayweather is a small ww, Collazo was a big ww" crap. Mayweather is still bigger than Hatton, and has a nice height and reach advantage. And Hatton camp is still making excuses for the Collazo fight.

I was surprised there was not an excuse for his Urango fight in there as well, a fight where he gassed out and failed to impress against a very one dimensional fighter. Figure they would have covered that one too.

The funny thing is, I think Hatton might actually believe he can win. He has proved nothing since his win against Tszyu. I dont count beating a very noticeably washed up Castillo as proving something.

**DIOS DOMINICANO** · 11-21-2007 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by dasamm

The funny thing is, I think Hatton might actually believe he can win. He has proved nothing since his win against Tszyu. I dont count beating a very noticeably washed up Castillo as proving something.

Hatton is on an all-time confidence high after stopping Castillo. The thing about Hatton is that he doesn't understand what "elite competition" really is. So that confidence is probably a bit misplaced. The Floyd that he will see is FAAAR better than anyone he has faced.

Tszyu was an excellent fighter. But, come on. Let's face it. Not the version that Hatton fought. That version of Tszyu was 36 years old and had more surgeries than fights in the years leading up to that fight. How am I to believe that a guy had a lot left in the tank when he retired after the fight?

Castillo was an excellent fighter in his day. The JLC that Floyd and Chico fought was an A-level guy. But Hatton faced a guy who was coming off major weight issues, financial problems, the death of his brother and looked just plain lousy in the two fights preceding the Hatton bout.

I read an article where Hatton was listing Freddie Pendleton as an example of the elite competition he has faced. Yes. Really. 38 year old, 25-loss Freddie Pendleton.

Floyd is OFTEN disingenuous. He calls Gatti a C-class fighter before the bout, and calls Gatti a paper champion. Then when FMJ wins the belt, it is suddenly the REAL belt. Yeah, I know that the belt doesn't make the fighter, the fighter makes the belt. But still.

Floyd has been in the ring with PRIME, elite guys. Ricky has not. Yet. Floyd is his first. I think that difference will show up on 12/8. Hatton is in for more than he expects.Speed-wise... and, surprisingly, strength/power also.

**Cortez The Killer** · 11-22-2007 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO

Originally Posted by dasamm

The funny thing is, I think Hatton might actually believe he can win. He has proved nothing since his win against Tszyu. I dont count beating a very noticeably washed up Castillo as proving something.

Hatton is on an all-time confidence high after stopping Castillo. The thing about Hatton is that he doesn't understand what "elite competition" really is. So that confidence is probably a bit misplaced. The Floyd that he will see is FAAAR better than anyone he has faced.

Tszyu was an excellent fighter. But, come on. Let's face it. Not the version that Hatton fought. That version of Tszyu was 36 years old and had more surgeries than fights in the years leading up to that fight. How am I to believe that a guy had a lot left in the tank when he retired after the fight?

Castillo was an excellent fighter in his day. The JLC that Floyd and Chico fought was an A-level guy. But Hatton faced a guy who was coming off major weight issues, financial problems, the death of his brother and looked just plain lousy in the two fights preceding the Hatton bout.

I read an article where Hatton was listing Freddie Pendleton as an example of the elite competition he has faced. Yes. Really. 38 year old, 25-loss Freddie Pendleton.

Floyd is OFTEN disingenuous. He calls Gatti a C-class fighter before the bout, and calls Gatti a paper champion. Then when FMJ wins the belt, it is suddenly the REAL belt. Yeah, I know that the belt doesn't make the fighter, the fighter makes the belt. But still.

Floyd has been in the ring with PRIME, elite guys. Ricky has not. Yet. Floyd is his first. I think that difference will show up on 12/8. Hatton is in for more than he expects.Speed-wise... and, surprisingly, strength/power also.

DIOS, you put that about as well as I can imagine anyone doing. You covered a lot and I agree with every bit of it. Cool click #8.

I will be interested to how Hatton fans will respond to these facts

I am not crazy about Floyd lately, but that is mostly based on his past few fights lacking some of the raw action that I usually like to see. At the same time I can not blame him, his skill is such that he can win a fight comfortably and take very few punches in the process. There is no doubt in my mind that he is the undisputed p4p best boxer in the world today.

I think he may have a little coming out as the Floyd of old and do a number on Hatton. He has little to be afraid of with Hatton imo. I think he will get in there and exchange a bit with Hatton as well, create some action, win over some more fans, and silence his many detractors.

**DIOS DOMINICANO** · 11-22-2007 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by dasamm

I am not crazy about Floyd lately, but that is mostly based on his past few fights lacking some of the raw action that I usually like to see. At the same time I can not blame him, his skill is such that he can win a fight comfortably and take very few punches in the process. There is no doubt in my mind that he is the undisputed p4p best boxer in the world today.

I think he may have a little coming out as the Floyd of old and do a number on Hatton. He has little to be afraid of with Hatton imo. I think he will get in there and exchange a bit with Hatton as well, create some action, win over some more fans, and silence his many detractors.

Megathanx, Das.

Floyd's work at 147 is impressive mainly in the sense that he has fought much bigger men. After the Collazo fight, Hatton remarked how strong LC was and Ricky admitted that he isn't a welter. Well, FMJ weighs less than Ricky does. So FMJ definitely is not a WW either. Floyd can/should be toiling at 135/140. Fighting voluntarily above your natural weight is hard stuff, and should be recognized.

Remember, when SRL went to 160, he didn't try to hunt guys down. He danced, danced, danced. Remember the Hagler fight? MMH was saying "fight me, you bitch".

At 140, Floyd's work was beyond reproach...even if his competition was soft-ish.

DeMarcus Corley - 3 knockdowns en route to a dominant decision.
Henry Bruseles - 2 knockdowns, vicious bodyshots and Bruseles corner quits.
Arturo Gatti - that wasn't a fight. It was a friggin' 6-round snuff film.
Sharmba Mitchell* - 2 knockdown, and a 6th round stoppage.

What's to complain about that? And Floyd didn't "run" in any of those fights, despite being the smaller man.

My guess is that the people who call him Gayfeather, or Mayrunner really started watching boxing for "The World Awaits".

**Kel** · 11-22-2007 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Sundiata

Originally Posted by Muzzo

here's a link to an interview on bbc.com along with a new pic of Hatton,looking good

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7102483.stm

Hmm, wasn't De La Hoya in "the best shape of his life" before he got outpointed for 12 rounds? It's a common theme with these guys.

He was in the best shape he could ever be in at that time.

**Kel** · 11-22-2007 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO

Originally Posted by dasamm

I am not crazy about Floyd lately, but that is mostly based on his past few fights lacking some of the raw action that I usually like to see. At the same time I can not blame him, his skill is such that he can win a fight comfortably and take very few punches in the process. There is no doubt in my mind that he is the undisputed p4p best boxer in the world today.

I think he may have a little coming out as the Floyd of old and do a number on Hatton. He has little to be afraid of with Hatton imo. I think he will get in there and exchange a bit with Hatton as well, create some action, win over some more fans, and silence his many detractors.

Megathanx, Das.

Floyd's work at 147 is impressive mainly in the sense that he has fought much bigger men. After the Collazo fight, Hatton remarked how strong LC was and Ricky admitted that he isn't a welter. Well, FMJ weighs less than Ricky does. So FMJ definitely is not a WW either. Floyd can/should be toiling at 135/140. Fighting voluntarily above your natural weight is hard stuff, and should be recognized.

Remember, when SRL went to 160, he didn't try to hunt guys down. He danced, danced, danced. Remember the Hagler fight? MMH was saying "fight me, you bitch".

At 140, Floyd's work was beyond reproach...even if his competition was soft-ish.

DeMarcus Corley - 3 knockdowns en route to a dominant decision.
Henry Bruseles - 2 knockdowns, vicious bodyshots and Bruseles corner quits.
Arturo Gatti - that wasn't a fight. It was a friggin' 6-round snuff film.
Sharmba Mitchell* - 2 knockdown, and a 6th round stoppage.

What's to complain about that? And Floyd didn't "run" in any of those fights, despite being the smaller man.

My guess is that the people who call him Gayfeather, or Mayrunner really started watching boxing for "The World Awaits".

Welcome, great posting. I must have missed many of your posts. Moving house and all

**JT Rock** · 11-22-2007 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO

Originally Posted by dasamm

I am not crazy about Floyd lately, but that is mostly based on his past few fights lacking some of the raw action that I usually like to see.  At the same time I can not blame him, his skill is such that he can win a fight comfortably and take very few punches in the process.  There is no doubt in my mind that he is the undisputed p4p best boxer in the world today.

I think he may have a little coming out as the Floyd of old and do a number on Hatton.  He has little to be afraid of with Hatton imo.  I think he will get in there and exchange a bit with Hatton as well, create some action, win over some more fans, and silence his many detractors. 

Megathanx, Das.

Floyd's work at 147 is impressive mainly in the sense that he has fought much bigger men. After the Collazo fight, Hatton remarked how strong LC was and Ricky admitted that he isn't a welter. Well, FMJ weighs less than Ricky does. So FMJ definitely is not a WW either. Floyd can/should be toiling at 135/140. Fighting voluntarily above your natural weight is hard stuff, and should be recognized.

Remember, when SRL went to 160, he didn't try to hunt guys down. He danced, danced, danced. Remember the Hagler fight? MMH was saying "fight me, you bitch".

At 140, Floyd's work was beyond reproach...even if his competition was soft-ish.

DeMarcus Corley - 3 knockdowns en route to a dominant decision.
Henry Bruseles - 2 knockdowns, vicious bodyshots and Bruseles corner quits.
Arturo Gatti - that wasn't a fight. It was a friggin'  6-round snuff film.
Sharmba Mitchell* - 2 knockdown, and a 6th round stoppage.

What's to complain about that? And Floyd didn't "run" in any of those fights, despite being the smaller man.

My guess is that the people who call him Gayfeather, or Mayrunner really started watching boxing for "The World Awaits".

#9

very good insightful posting. Also if Ricky was a success at 147 and his camp was confident of his abilities they would have stayed and quote unquote put on the weight properly. and honored the rematch he promised Collazzo on worldwide Tv, instead he packs up and scurries back to 140 and fought a guy with an alphabet title who had about 18 pro fights and one dimensional so Ricky could dazzle against a guy that wasnt gonna be hard to find that was unexperienced, shiit defense but it backfired he looked less than menaceing and all of a sudden damage control kicks in and he has the flu or some mess.Next in line you got shot azz Castillo moving up in weight cause he cant do 135 anymore who by know ones suprise of the outcome seeing you already saw what he had to offer when he got beat and then got a gift against Herman Nogoujo who had but 16 fights, Castillo looked lethargic slow and well past it, then suprise suprise he looks EXACTLY the same against Hatton, Ricky gets him with a body shot. Then Ricky is vaunted for doing something extradoniary

Castillo was nothing like the guy that Floyd fought 2x 5 years ago.

Mayweather TKO round 6-7

**Entragian** · 11-22-2007 04:04 AM

I keep seeing that Hatton got his a** beat by Luis Collazo. I've seen the fight 4 times. All four times he got a UD. Nothing ever changed. I was kind of shocked. The recording never changed. The fight looked the exactly the same everytime. Ricky got SMACKED in the final round. 10 Seconds later he's back on the attack. These Collazo posts are confusing me. At no point did I ever think Hatton was losing that fight..ever. I'll grant you this... he didn't look the same, but getting his butt kicked? You gotta be kidding me.