Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
How does the illegal save taxpayers money

I have outlined the drain on the economy that they are....how do they benefit us besides giving us very cheap grapes?
You haven't outlined anything. You've ranted about immigrants but haven't actually posted any facts.

Undocumented-Americans coming over the border in vast numbers mean that wages are kept low which squeezes inflation out of the economy, meaning we can keep interest rates much lower on an ongoing basis than we'd be able to otherwise. They also mean no loss of production due to labour shortages. These things combined help grow the economy exponentially faster than would otherwise be possible.
The economy is only growing expodentially faster for people who already have more money than they know what to do with. The middle class is quickly losing ground. They can't take a job with humane working conditions or benefits because companies can't afford to do that. It's insourcing a job instead of outsourcing, they're both just as bad for the middle class (which i'll remind you composes a VAST majority of america).

Companies are closing left and right because they refuse to break the law to make ends meet. I don't know where you live, but where i live, 2 major factories just shut down. Those jobs paid atleast $15 an hour. Those jobs are no longer available because they wouldn't cut benefits to their employees or hire cheap labor. Since you wanna use numbers, thats about 1,000 people out of a job with benefits which now adds to the strain on the government to provide for them. Thats right the government, not democrats (pc crazy hippies in denial of their own mental illiness), not republicans (fat old rich "god sent" leaders), the government.

Regardless of party lines, they all have special interest groups they lean towards to get elected. The democrats favor the gays (biggest mental illiness group on their roster) and angry minorites who they've brainwashed into thinking they are victims. The republicans favor the delusional churches and any business that will throw money at them.

All they care about is money which is funny because the way they're all going, nobody that lives here will have any to give them after the insane taxes that they'd need to collect to balance their policies and the money they do collect won't be worth anything as they continually destroy the dollars value day in and day out. Atleast they can burn it to keep them warm in the winter when energy companies get run out of business. Have you been to a small middle class town with in the past 10 years? They've mostly all degraded into drug havens as their isn't a good legitimate way to make money there anymore.

Again i will remind you that the iraq war wasn't started because of oil in the 00's, it was prevented from happening in the 90's because of oil. In the 90's, they (iraq's government) bombed us domestically twice (first world trade center, oklahoma city) as well as try to take the life of bush senior (overseas). If you believe in the 9-11 conspiracy you are an idiot because you would also need to explain how the government was behind those two attacks as well as flight 800 (and the bombing over in somalia). They had WMD's at one time (go in nothern iraq and look at the mass graves made for the thousands killed by chemical weapons) and thats a good enough lie to get in there because the truth would be really hard to accept.

The truth is we were attacked and they (our government) put the money we were making from "peace" ahead of the general security of the people that live here. This is a consistant pattern of action that is being taken today. They bring in millions of illegal workers just to save a couple cents in production costs. Those few cents are more important to them than the people that elected them to office.