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Pryor was off balance against Akio he rolled back and got straight back up he was not hurt by that punch at all he was just off balance.
Dujuan floored Pryor with a good punch but he was up straight away and Pryor was not all over place against Dujuan he took some good punches but he stood his ground and then whooped Dujuan after about the 4th round.
ofcourse they were off balance. Come on ICB, Pryor went on to win but the least you can do is admit he went down. Without saying he was caught off balance.


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How does a drink effect your chin ?? if he did have something it would of only changed his energy nothing else.
A "mixed" drink can effect your entire body not just your chin. A mixed drink with let's say something like PCP would be like giving Aaron body armour from ancient times. Thats how a drink can effect your chin.


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I don't know the full story of why the urine samples wern't collected so i will not comment on it.
Well they never collected urine samples.
Which I mean how in the hell do they forget to collect urine samples?
No one was ever blamed or anything, all Alexis got was a "It was our mistake, sorry"


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Yes i know Mick but he dismantled Rooney in fine fashion and in previsious fights even before Rooney fight he looked great. Who knows ?? it is very controversial but we will never know im not going to keep debating with you on it because no one really knows what was in the bottle so i'll leave it at that.
I didn't take much to dismantle Rooney I mean he had to drop in weight as I said Rooney had been fighting upwords of 147 and he was KO'd in all of his looses. I understand Alexis looked well prior to the Rooney fight again that was at Lighweight not Light Welterweight.


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How can you compare Arguello who was still very good fighter to the Pryor that lost to Young ?? he had drug problems and he was coming off a long lay off he was counting with the ref when he was knocked down in first round then when he was knocked down again in the 7th i can't remember exactly what he done but he done a cross symbol or something ?? but the ref stopped the fight not because Pryor was hurt but because he see the way Pryor was acting and it was a right call by the ref.
I compared them cause it was obvious neither fighter was the same they once were. Whether one was a drug addict or the other was fighting at age 30 with 82 fights moving up to yet another weight class far from 118 lbs. which is reportedly the weight he started fighting at. Point is whatever reasons maybe they were both past it one way or another.


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Pryor would also swarm Hatton plus he had much faster hands and better boxing skills when he used them like i said if somehow Hatton beat Pryor on inside Pryor would box i really don't see how Hatton could beat Pryor in a toe to toe war i really don't.
I didn't say Hatton would go toe to toe, I said Hatton would smuther Aaron and would try not to let Aaron get his distance to fight. One things for sure it would be a very interesting fight.

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Pryor was tested against Cervantes and Arguello both elite even if you think they were past it well we could say the same for Hatton couldn't we ?? Castillo, Tszyu, were both past it so if you don't think Pryor's skills were ever tested against elite fighter because they were past it then i will comeback and say neither has Hatton because Castillo and Tszyu were both past it.
Right, I was never debating their oppositions. Funny you mention this cause I am one of the VERY FEW people on here who believes Tszyu wasn't past his best. I actually thought you also felt Tszyu wasn't past it? I know theirs a few people who think Tszyu wasn't past his best.
JLC that's a whole another story.
Truth is Hatton & Aaron are pretty much hand in hand right now as far as opposition. So a Hatton win would not be out of the question or a far stretched truth.
Ok Mick im back i would like to debate with you on this a little more because im having fun with this.

ofcourse they were off balance. Come on ICB, Pryor went on to win but the least you can do is admit he went down. Without saying he was caught off balance.

I did admit Pryor went down but in the Akio fight he was clearly off balance, Akio hit Pryor with with very soft punches none of them were damaging blows and he went down just because he was off balance.

A "mixed" drink can effect your entire body not just your chin. A mixed drink with let's say something like PCP would be like giving Aaron body armour from ancient times. Thats how a drink can effect your chin.

Im not very knowledgable in all that stuff Mick so i won't really comment on it but my point still stands that i still think Pryor has amazing chin even though Arguello was past it in the rematch with Pryor he hit Pryor with some monster shots and Pryor didn't even move not to go off topic but i think that 1st round was one of the best opening rounds in history.

Well they never collected urine samples.
Which I mean how in the hell do they forget to collect urine samples?
No one was ever blamed or anything, all Alexis got was a "It was our mistake, sorry


Believe me i know what kind of man Panama Lewis is i remember hearing years ago about him removing the padding from the gloves let me put it this way it wouldn't surprise me.

I didn't take much to dismantle Rooney I mean he had to drop in weight as I said Rooney had been fighting upwords of 147 and he was KO'd in all of his looses. I understand Alexis looked well prior to the Rooney fight again that was at Lighweight not Light Welterweight.

Yes i know Rooney was just a tune up fight to get Arguello prepared at Light Welterweight but i still didn't think there was anything wrong with Arguello in the first Pryor fight did you ?? he performed amazing imo.

I compared them cause it was obvious neither fighter was the same they once were. Whether one was a drug addict or the other was fighting at age 30 with 82 fights moving up to yet another weight class far from 118 lbs. which is reportedly the weight he started fighting at. Point is whatever reasons maybe they were both past it one way or another.

I have to disagree Arguello might not have been at his peak but he was still very good fighter and the way he performed in the 1st Pryor fight he certainly didn't look past it in any way. Thats totally different to the Pryor who fought Young you could see he had really bad demons in that fight he was a shell of his former self.

I didn't say Hatton would go toe to toe, I said Hatton would smuther Aaron and would try not to let Aaron get his distance to fight. One things for sure it would be a very interesting fight.

He would try but he would fail imo Pryor had much quicker hands than Hatton and he would be backing Hatton up and win by TKO Pryor was an animal and the way he used to swarm fighters was quite unbelievable.

Right, I was never debating their oppositions. Funny you mention this cause I am one of the VERY FEW people on here who believes Tszyu wasn't past his best. I actually thought you also felt Tszyu wasn't past it? I know theirs a few people who think Tszyu wasn't past his best.
JLC that's a whole another story.
Truth is Hatton & Aaron are pretty much hand in hand right now as far as opposition. So a Hatton win would not be out of the question or a far stretched truth.


I believe Hatton deserves more credit for the win but Tszyu was past his best. But i also believe it doesn't make any difference and Hatton would beat Tszyu at any stage in his career because Tszyu always struggled with swarming style thats why he got destroyed by Vince Phillips.

No it wouldn't be out of the question but i just can't see Hatton winning but if you think Hatton would win i have no problem with that.