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Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it
Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.


The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future
Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight? NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?
Fenster how can you say that when Bhop just called out Calzaghe before the Kessler fight...i think Bhop was hoping Joe would lose to Kesler.That aint smart,that was Bhop being stupid.

I'd hardly say was "scared" but he aint got the balls to get in with Joe i think whatever Joe does for this fight Bhop is going to make up something he wants. and some of his demands are quite frankly ridiculous. like asking for exclusive promotion rights? get real.

Bhop should say straight wether he wants this fight or not rather than messing around with the public...wich is what he is doing.

I wouldnt blame him if he said he didint want to fight Joe...the guy is 40 for christ sake..who would give a S*** if he said "nah F*** it maybe if i was 10yrs younger"

But Bhop if just F****** everyone about at the moment.
We agree. I'm just trying to put it across slightly different.

He's never going to come out and say - "I don't fancy fighting that cazlaghe guy, he too gooood".. it's just not the done thing.