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Ok since you don't me using arguement's about fights taking place in different weight class how about Ruben Castillo ?? Castillo gave Arguello alot of problems with speed and yet again Mayweather is x2 faster than Castillo and is much better than Castillo in every department.
Castillo gave Alexis problems with speed?
Are you serious? Castillo was not a handspeed kinda fighter Castillo was too patient in all of his fights then every now and then he'd turn it up but for the most part he wasnt a handspeed fighter. I'm curious now if you've seen the fight. Castillo was a good fighter but again far from speed Castillo was even wild at times and ackward he wasted energy trying to land the big punches. Which oddly enough became his dismay when he fought Sanchez. Castillio gave Alexis, Sanchez, JCC & LaPorte all he could handle Alexis fighting him at his best stopped him while Sanchez & LaPorte went the distance.


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And i don't agree Arguello was far from unbeatable at Superfeatherweight.
If you can direct me to where I posted that Alexis was unbeatable I'd like to see that, so that I could slap myslef in the face for posting that.

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He had problem's with fast fighter's Arguello was very accurate puncher and picked his shots beautifully but Mayweather is too good on defense and is much too fast for Arguello imo.
Speed can be topped with timing someone like Alexis who was a master at precise punching with the right amount of power in each shot could just as well land the turning point shot. Mayweathers defense is great today but let's keep in mind this rolling with the shoulders defense wasn't full developed yet at that time when he fought at SFW.
Castillo gave Alexis problems with speed?
Are you serious? Castillo was not a handspeed kinda fighter Castillo was too patient in all of his fights then every now and then he'd turn it up but for the most part he wasnt a handspeed fighter. I'm curious now if you've seen the fight. Castillo was a good fighter but again far from speed Castillo was even wild at times and ackward he wasted energy trying to land the big punches. Which oddly enough became his dismay when he fought Sanchez. Castillio gave Alexis, Sanchez, JCC & LaPorte all he could handle Alexis fighting him at his best stopped him while Sanchez & LaPorte went the distance.


I haven't seen the fight for years but if i remember right Castillo did fight with speed and gave Arguello problems and it was pretty much even going into 11th until Arguello stopped Castiilo i will download it tomorrow and watch it in a few days i need to refresh. Castillo did give Sanchez a good fight i remember that clearly but he faded in later stages and that gave Sanchez the decision.

If you can direct me to where I posted that Alexis was unbeatable I'd like to see that, so that I could slap myslef in the face for posting that.


To me Alexis & Finito are quite possibly the closest thing to perfection in the ring. More times then often if theirs a potential matchup I always side with Alexis. He wasn't perfect but sure as hell is the closest thing I've seen to it. The power & skill that Alexis carried then was just amazing and I feel that it would enough to stop PBF late in the fight.


This was posted by you i thought you meant he was almost unbeatable when you said perfection but i must of got the wrong end of the stick my mistake.


Speed can be topped with timing someone like Alexis who was a master at precise punching with the right amount of power in each shot could just as well land the turning point shot. Mayweathers defense is great today but let's keep in mind this rolling with the shoulders defense wasn't full developed yet at that time when he fought at SFW.

Yes it can i agree.

Mayweathers defense is great today but let's keep in mind this rolling with the shoulders defense wasn't full developed yet at that time when he fought at SFW.

I agree but Mayweather's reflexes were also faster back then and he had alot of power at that weight plus he is more defensive minded now because he has to be because he moved up in weight.