Is Hatton Mayweathers best opponent yet?

[Munkymagic]

Hatton is not only Mayweathers best opponent so far but will also prove to be too good for Floyd.

Welsh,

I appreciate and respect your perspective.

If Mayweather soundly beats Hatton, does that mean that Mayweather is much better than you thought?... Or that Hatton wasn't as good as you thought?

DIOS; may I ask what your opinion of Hatton would be if he did get Floyd out of there on the 8th? Will it change mildly or drastically, and how would you rank him against the top WW's? I personally feel Mayweather will clean house on Ricky, but you seem to have a barely masked disdain for Hatton, so I was curious what your feelings of him would be should he pull off a major upset against Floyd.

I'll try to address the points in your post:

a) I have a fairly low opinion of Hatton's overall skills package. I believe that he feasted on older fighters. I do not think that it is a coincidence that he looked his worst against the younger and fresher fighters who can match his physicality and energy. Yeah, I know. he only had six hours notice for Collazo. He hasd leukemia for Urango.

I believe that he would have lost a rematch with Collazo. The rematch he promised and then ran back to 140.

b) I believe that Hatton - LIKE SOME OTHER FIGHTERS - is "hiding" at a lower weight. It is said that Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Huh? He turned pro a decade ago at 140. Is it unreasonable to expect an athletic man who works out for ten years to gain seven pounds? He is 154 on fight night. As high as Shane Mosley, and higher than Mayweather and Judah. How is that not a Welterweight?

c) If Hatton beats Floyd, then Mayweather's status ("modern great") will be diminished in my mind. Great fighters DO lose to middling fighters (see Barrera-Junior Jones), but not to one-note fighters of Hatton's calibre.

d) If Floyd wins, that does NOT elevate FMJ in my mind. It is an expectation, and I'm still mildly disappointed that FMJ chose the easy fight for money. He pissed away a year of his (fading) prime by taking this fight. Cotto or Mosley was the fight to make. Especially Cotto. Miguel showed that he has a blend of boxing and pressure that is truly a stepchild of Duran/Chavez. He was impressive moving backwards vs SSM.

e) My disdain is MUCH less for Hatton than it is for Hatton's unreasonable fans. The Hattonettes have displayed a bottomless capacity for hyperbole: "Ricky broke four of castillo's ribs!!"... "Ricky will knock out Mayweather in 5 rounds!!"...etc. Additionally, the Hatton groupies (SOME) have instigated a distinct racial tinge. Doubt that? See YouTube comments.

f) Ricky and his camp have been dishonest in their comments to the public and media. Example?

From SecondsOut:

But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."

Now... didn't I hear Hatton laud his four rounds with Castillo as "more excitement than Mayweather's whole career"?

Another example? Sure. This is what Ricky said this week:

Ricky Hatton: “I’m jumping out of my skin (waiting for this fight). It is a fight I’ve always wanted. You’ve spoken to Billy, he’ll tell you it is a fight we’ve always fancied style wise. We’ve fancied this fight for years and when the fight came about we knew it was going to be a huge fight. We wanted it (the fight) years ago but in the meantime Floyd’s become (a) bigger (name). I’ve become (a) bigger (name) and the time is right.”

But this is what Team Hatton said previously:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

Stevie Wonder can see the contradiction.

g) I'm a Latino. Maybe I have a bit too much of that latin-macho-thing, but here goes:

Floyd was in Ricky's face calling him "a bitch", a pussy, etc. He told Ricky that he would buttfuck him. Ricky said nothing. This was in LA and in New York. OK, fine. Ricky is taking the high road. I can respect that.

But then they get to London and manchester, and Ricky starts talking and cursing. Huh? Wait- where was this Hatton on the first few legs of the tour? Either you have taken the high road...or you haven't. Ricky said that the insults had no effect. But for two months running, he has been talking about how FMJ "disrespected" him and he has taken many shots at FMJ on 24/7.

Floyd talks alot of S***. But how can you disagree with this:

"When have you ever heard Ricky Hatton talk trash before? He won't say it to my face but in front of the cameras he is really acting up. We did a five-city tour and the only time he talked tough was when he was home in Manchester. Now he's talking on HBO's 24/7 too. You know what I call him—a camera gangster. If I'm going to talk about you I am going to do it to your face, right in front of you."


I know that the British are kind of fey. Personally? If I have something to say ABOUT a man, I'm going to say it TO the man. Man Law.


Finally...h) If Hatton loses - and heaven help the Hattonettes if he is stopped - then that validates my opinion that RH is "B minus" level fighter. I will be INTOLERABLE to the Hatton groupies if Hatton loses.

....it'll be interesting to see how many SC's I get for speaking the truth.

Sorry mate. What you wrote is ridiculous. It basically says 'whatever hatton does...he could put on the most fantastic display and knock floyd out and he would never get my respect'

Nice one fanboy

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Sorry mate. What you wrote is ridiculous. It basically says 'whatever hatton does...he could put on the most fantastic display and knock floyd out and he would never get my respect'

Nice one fanboy

Don't disappear on Sunday. That's all I ask, Stan.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I SC'd you. TO be honest you have one of the dumbest post I have ever read. I stopped after you said that Hatton was hiding at 140. YOu fight at the wieght division that is best for you. It isn't fucking brain surgery. Whenever you can't make wieght you move up. That is why they have different divisions.
If a fighter moves up, like PBF did, so much the better. His height, ability, reach, and athleticism allowed him to move up and that is great for him. HIs body can carry the jump in divisions. But I would have NEVER dissed him for staying at a wieght division and unifying..

It's truly shocking and painful that you sc'd me. How will I live on?

I understand . It is impossible for your idol to move up seven pounds in a decade. Got it.

"weight".

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Hatton is not only Mayweathers best opponent so far but will also prove to be too good for Floyd.

Welsh,

I appreciate and respect your perspective.

If Mayweather soundly beats Hatton, does that mean that Mayweather is much better than you thought?... Or that Hatton wasn't as good as you thought?

DIOS; may I ask what your opinion of Hatton would be if he did get Floyd out of there on the 8th? Will it change mildly or drastically, and how would you rank him against the top WW's? I personally feel Mayweather will clean house on Ricky, but you seem to have a barely masked disdain for Hatton, so I was curious what your feelings of him would be should he pull off a major upset against Floyd.

I'll try to address the points in your post:

a) I have a fairly low opinion of Hatton's overall skills package. I believe that he feasted on older fighters. I do not think that it is a coincidence that he looked his worst against the younger and fresher fighters who can match his physicality and energy. Yeah, I know. he only had six hours notice for Collazo. He hasd leukemia for Urango.

I believe that he would have lost a rematch with Collazo. The rematch he promised and then ran back to 140.

b) I believe that Hatton - LIKE SOME OTHER FIGHTERS - is "hiding" at a lower weight. It is said that Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Huh? He turned pro a decade ago at 140. Is it unreasonable to expect an athletic man who works out for ten years to gain seven pounds? He is 154 on fight night. As high as Shane Mosley, and higher than Mayweather and Judah. How is that not a Welterweight?

c) If Hatton beats Floyd, then Mayweather's status ("modern great") will be diminished in my mind. Great fighters DO lose to middling fighters (see Barrera-Junior Jones), but not to one-note fighters of Hatton's calibre.

d) If Floyd wins, that does NOT elevate FMJ in my mind. It is an expectation, and I'm still mildly disappointed that FMJ chose the easy fight for money. He pissed away a year of his (fading) prime by taking this fight. Cotto or Mosley was the fight to make. Especially Cotto. Miguel showed that he has a blend of boxing and pressure that is truly a stepchild of Duran/Chavez. He was impressive moving backwards vs SSM.

e) My disdain is MUCH less for Hatton than it is for Hatton's unreasonable fans. The Hattonettes have displayed a bottomless capacity for hyperbole: "Ricky broke four of castillo's ribs!!"... "Ricky will knock out Mayweather in 5 rounds!!"...etc. Additionally, the Hatton groupies (SOME) have instigated a distinct racial tinge. Doubt that? See YouTube comments.

f) Ricky and his camp have been dishonest in their comments to the public and media. Example?

From SecondsOut:

But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."

Now... didn't I hear Hatton laud his four rounds with Castillo as "more excitement than Mayweather's whole career"?

Another example? Sure. This is what Ricky said this week:

Ricky Hatton: “I’m jumping out of my skin (waiting for this fight). It is a fight I’ve always wanted. You’ve spoken to Billy, he’ll tell you it is a fight we’ve always fancied style wise. We’ve fancied this fight for years and when the fight came about we knew it was going to be a huge fight. We wanted it (the fight) years ago but in the meantime Floyd’s become (a) bigger (name). I’ve become (a) bigger (name) and the time is right.”

But this is what Team Hatton said previously:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

Stevie Wonder can see the contradiction.

g) I'm a Latino. Maybe I have a bit too much of that latin-macho-thing, but here goes:

Floyd was in Ricky's face calling him "a bitch", a pussy, etc. He told Ricky that he would buttfuck him. Ricky said nothing. This was in LA and in New York. OK, fine. Ricky is taking the high road. I can respect that.

But then they get to London and manchester, and Ricky starts talking and cursing. Huh? Wait- where was this Hatton on the first few legs of the tour? Either you have taken the high road...or you haven't. Ricky said that the insults had no effect. But for two months running, he has been talking about how FMJ "disrespected" him and he has taken many shots at FMJ on 24/7.

Floyd talks alot of S***. But how can you disagree with this:

"When have you ever heard Ricky Hatton talk trash before? He won't say it to my face but in front of the cameras he is really acting up. We did a five-city tour and the only time he talked tough was when he was home in Manchester. Now he's talking on HBO's 24/7 too. You know what I call him—a camera gangster. If I'm going to talk about you I am going to do it to your face, right in front of you."


I know that the British are kind of fey. Personally? If I have something to say ABOUT a man, I'm going to say it TO the man. Man Law.


Finally...h) If Hatton loses - and heaven help the Hattonettes if he is stopped - then that validates my opinion that RH is "B minus" level fighter. I will be INTOLERABLE to the Hatton groupies if Hatton loses.

....it'll be interesting to see how many SC's I get for speaking the truth.

I SC'd you. TO be honest you have one of the dumbest post I have ever read. I stopped after you said that Hatton was hiding at 140. YOu fight at the wieght division that is best for you. It isn't fucking brain surgery. Whenever you can't make wieght you move up. That is why they have different divisions.
If a fighter moves up, like PBF did, so much the better. His height, ability, reach, and athleticism allowed him to move up and that is great for him. HIs body can carry the jump in divisions. But I would have NEVER dissed him for staying at a wieght division and unifying..

[LEGION]

Hatton is not only Mayweathers best opponent so far but will also prove to be too good for Floyd.

Welsh,

I appreciate and respect your perspective.

If Mayweather soundly beats Hatton, does that mean that Mayweather is much better than you thought?... Or that Hatton wasn't as good as you thought?

DIOS; may I ask what your opinion of Hatton would be if he did get Floyd out of there on the 8th? Will it change mildly or drastically, and how would you rank him against the top WW's? I personally feel Mayweather will clean house on Ricky, but you seem to have a barely masked disdain for Hatton, so I was curious what your feelings of him would be should he pull off a major upset against Floyd.

I'll try to address the points in your post:

a) I have a fairly low opinion of Hatton's overall skills package. I believe that he feasted on older fighters. I do not think that it is a coincidence that he looked his worst against the younger and fresher fighters who can match his physicality and energy. Yeah, I know. he only had six hours notice for Collazo. He hasd leukemia for Urango.

I believe that he would have lost a rematch with Collazo. The rematch he promised and then ran back to 140.

b) I believe that Hatton - LIKE SOME OTHER FIGHTERS - is "hiding" at a lower weight. It is said that Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Huh? He turned pro a decade ago at 140. Is it unreasonable to expect an athletic man who works out for ten years to gain seven pounds? He is 154 on fight night. As high as Shane Mosley, and higher than Mayweather and Judah. How is that not a Welterweight?

c) If Hatton beats Floyd, then Mayweather's status ("modern great") will be diminished in my mind. Great fighters DO lose to middling fighters (see Barrera-Junior Jones), but not to one-note fighters of Hatton's calibre.

d) If Floyd wins, that does NOT elevate FMJ in my mind. It is an expectation, and I'm still mildly disappointed that FMJ chose the easy fight for money. He pissed away a year of his (fading) prime by taking this fight. Cotto or Mosley was the fight to make. Especially Cotto. Miguel showed that he has a blend of boxing and pressure that is truly a stepchild of Duran/Chavez. He was impressive moving backwards vs SSM.

e) My disdain is MUCH less for Hatton than it is for Hatton's unreasonable fans. The Hattonettes have displayed a bottomless capacity for hyperbole: "Ricky broke four of castillo's ribs!!"... "Ricky will knock out Mayweather in 5 rounds!!"...etc. Additionally, the Hatton groupies (SOME) have instigated a distinct racial tinge. Doubt that? See YouTube comments.

f) Ricky and his camp have been dishonest in their comments to the public and media. Example?

From SecondsOut:

But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."

Now... didn't I hear Hatton laud his four rounds with Castillo as "more excitement than Mayweather's whole career"?

Another example? Sure. This is what Ricky said this week:

Ricky Hatton: “I’m jumping out of my skin (waiting for this fight). It is a fight I’ve always wanted. You’ve spoken to Billy, he’ll tell you it is a fight we’ve always fancied style wise. We’ve fancied this fight for years and when the fight came about we knew it was going to be a huge fight. We wanted it (the fight) years ago but in the meantime Floyd’s become (a) bigger (name). I’ve become (a) bigger (name) and the time is right.”

But this is what Team Hatton said previously:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

Stevie Wonder can see the contradiction.

g) I'm a Latino. Maybe I have a bit too much of that latin-macho-thing, but here goes:

Floyd was in Ricky's face calling him "a bitch", a pussy, etc. He told Ricky that he would buttfuck him. Ricky said nothing. This was in LA and in New York. OK, fine. Ricky is taking the high road. I can respect that.

But then they get to London and manchester, and Ricky starts talking and cursing. Huh? Wait- where was this Hatton on the first few legs of the tour? Either you have taken the high road...or you haven't. Ricky said that the insults had no effect. But for two months running, he has been talking about how FMJ "disrespected" him and he has taken many shots at FMJ on 24/7.

Floyd talks alot of S***. But how can you disagree with this:

"When have you ever heard Ricky Hatton talk trash before? He won't say it to my face but in front of the cameras he is really acting up. We did a five-city tour and the only time he talked tough was when he was home in Manchester. Now he's talking on HBO's 24/7 too. You know what I call him—a camera gangster. If I'm going to talk about you I am going to do it to your face, right in front of you."


I know that the British are kind of fey. Personally? If I have something to say ABOUT a man, I'm going to say it TO the man. Man Law.


Finally...h) If Hatton loses - and heaven help the Hattonettes if he is stopped - then that validates my opinion that RH is "B minus" level fighter. I will be INTOLERABLE to the Hatton groupies if Hatton loses.

....it'll be interesting to see how many SC's I get for speaking the truth.

I hadn't noticed you had responded to my question, but I'll give you a CC for your efforts. Though personally, IMO, you come across as just a Hatton hater,that's acceptable, as we all have favorites and ones not so favored. Also, 90% or so of your posts since you've come on here seem to only center around this fight with Mayweather and how weak Hatton is. Fair? With all that said, I agree for the most part with your post. I don't believe Hatton's record reflects his real identity as a fighter, as I think that though he has the mindset and fierceness, his skills are lacking somewhat. And to take this fight with Floyd is a HUGE step up, IMO. I would have liked to see him rematch Collazo myself, and in all fairness I think he would have had this with Floyd not been presented, and the chance to beat the guy in Castillo who Floyd fought twice. You can't really blame Hatton too much for not wanting to get the payday he will with Floyd, not to mention the oppurtunity, no matter the disastrous results. I personally am a fan of both fighters, for different reasons, as we all are. But do you not give any credit for Ricky at least getting in the ring with Floyd? I know it's a big payday, but surely Hatton doesn't want to lose his undefeated record only just for the money? Maybe he doesn't care. TBH DIOS, you sound more like you want to hate on Hatton than anything else, though I have hated on Floyd's personality that I find reprehensible. Or is it like you said, you just dislike the Hatton fans more than you dislike Hatton; and try to rub it in their faces to annoy them? Either way, I thought your post was good, so CC for what it's worth. If by some chance Ricky wins, will YOU be here Sunday?

[hackey100]

Jesus Dios, you really are so far up mayweather's ass, when he speaks I'm surprised we don't hear your voice. Although thinking about, with all the shit that he spouts, it could very well be you we hear after all.

Look, I get that you like the guy, hopefully as a fighter and nothing else. As an individual the guy is pretty much scum. He's a bottom feeder, just like his uncle and his father. Money does not buy class and he is testament to that very fact.

Let's think about Hatton and the shit he went through on the promo tour. The grief he copped from Mayweather was insane and it's clear that a person like Hatton shoved in the limelight on a podium in Vegas is not going to be his normal self. So, at the end of the tour when he gets into an environment that he is cofortable with, he relaxed and had a dig back.

This probably played into Mayweather's hands a bit, but I don't think he could have bottled that up all the way to the fight.

So what if Hatton and his dad contradict themselves months apart, Mayweather does it within sentences and you haven't mentioned that once. Do a bit of digging pulls up gems like this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2858891

"Even though Mayweather has had his own dustups with the law over domestic abuse allegations, he said, "We've helped the battered women and the battered children over the years. I never, never, you know -- I don't go there and talk about those type of things but, like I said before, this is a business and I understand. I understand that it has to be a good guy and it has to be a bad guy.""

Look, I can understand that fans of boxing appreciate his talents, they are phenomenal indeed, but to be a true fan of a fighter involves more than just admiring their skills. Hatton has his quick wit, the fact that he really is a family guy and still does all the same things he did when he was growing up. Pavlik for example is similar, a humble guy who you could spend a few hours with and he seems pretty normal.
Lewis was intelligent and reasoned outside of the ring. Why do you think the Brisitsh fans are so passionate? I'll give you a clue, it's becaue they love the person, not just the fighter.

You will probably claim that Mayweather is cynically misportrayed by the media, but there is one video posted on here which shows him for what he is:

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,55757.0.html

I Will leave you with this. I am undeniably a Ricky Hatton fan. He is a great fighter, a great champion and a decent human being. He has his limitations and Mayweather is the better boxer of the two, but Floyd is not the god that you make him out to be. The difference between you and I is that if Ricky wins, it will not be entirely unexpected. I rate him as a 2-1 underdog, which I believe is reasonable in this fight. Your problem is that you have pitched your tent so far in Mayweather's corner (unreasonably far) that if he loses you will probably never be seen on these boards again. That would be a shame as imo you make some good, researched posts, but your blinkered loving of Mayweather just diminishes from that alot

[Wright]

hackey100 - excellent post. Balanced, but with a bit of bias towards Hatton, which is the way it should be. We all know on this site that Mayweather is fantastic, and definitely one of the best fighters of his era, but certain people on here still underrate Hatton. How good is Ricky? He'll be in the hall of fame eventually, and you can't say that about many British fighters. As for the fight - Mayweather, but I keep changing my mind.

[boozeboxer]

Sorry mate. What you wrote is ridiculous. It basically says 'whatever hatton does...he could put on the most fantastic display and knock floyd out and he would never get my respect'

Nice one fanboy

Don't disappear on Sunday. That's all I ask, Stan.

DIOS. All right if you want me to spell chech everything you write DICK. I spell weight wrong and that is all you come up with?? Well fuck you fanboy! I am not a die hard Hatton fan. I like both guys but I can not tolerate the ignorance that you keep spreading on the forum. Everyone is now dumber for having read your comments.
DIOS THIS DIOS THAT. YOU ARE just a god damned nuthugger and I hate you and everythign you represent.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Jesus Dios, you really are so far up mayweather's ass, when he speaks I'm surprised we don't hear your voice. Although thinking about, with all the shit that he spouts, it could very well be you we hear after all.

Look, I get that you like the guy, hopefully as a fighter and nothing else. As an individual the guy is pretty much scum. He's a bottom feeder, just like his uncle and his father. Money does not buy class and he is testament to that very fact.

Let's think about Hatton and the shit he went through on the promo tour. The grief he copped from Mayweather was insane and it's clear that a person like Hatton shoved in the limelight on a podium in Vegas is not going to be his normal self. So, at the end of the tour when he gets into an environment that he is cofortable with, he relaxed and had a dig back.

This probably played into Mayweather's hands a bit, but I don't think he could have bottled that up all the way to the fight.

So what if Hatton and his dad contradict themselves months apart, Mayweather does it within sentences and you haven't mentioned that once. Do a bit of digging pulls up gems like this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2858891

"Even though Mayweather has had his own dustups with the law over domestic abuse allegations, he said, "We've helped the battered women and the battered children over the years. I never, never, you know -- I don't go there and talk about those type of things but, like I said before, this is a business and I understand. I understand that it has to be a good guy and it has to be a bad guy.""

Look, I can understand that fans of boxing appreciate his talents, they are phenomenal indeed, but to be a true fan of a fighter involves more than just admiring their skills. Hatton has his quick wit, the fact that he really is a family guy and still does all the same things he did when he was growing up. Pavlik for example is similar, a humble guy who you could spend a few hours with and he seems pretty normal.
Lewis was intelligent and reasoned outside of the ring. Why do you think the Brisitsh fans are so passionate? I'll give you a clue, it's becaue they love the person, not just the fighter.

You will probably claim that Mayweather is cynically misportrayed by the media, but there is one video posted on here which shows him for what he is:

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,55757.0.html

I Will leave you with this. I am undeniably a Ricky Hatton fan. He is a great fighter, a great champion and a decent human being. He has his limitations and Mayweather is the better boxer of the two, but Floyd is not the god that you make him out to be. The difference between you and I is that if Ricky wins, it will not be entirely unexpected. I rate him as a 2-1 underdog, which I believe is reasonable in this fight. Your problem is that you have pitched your tent so far in Mayweather's corner (unreasonably far) that if he loses you will probably never be seen on these boards again. That would be a shame as imo you make some good, researched posts, but your blinkered loving of Mayweather just diminishes from that alot

If Hatton wins, I will be on here. Or you can find me on the HBO board as DUPLICITY. I won't run. Promise.

But if Hatton loses...my, oh my. I will make the lives of the Hatton groupies absolutely miserable. Trust. Because of all their hyperbole and racism.

We'll see on Saturday night. Somebody is getting exposed.

[hackey100]

Do you know what hyperbole means and do you have any links to the racism you speak of?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Sorry mate. What you wrote is ridiculous. It basically says 'whatever hatton does...he could put on the most fantastic display and knock floyd out and he would never get my respect'

Nice one fanboy

Don't disappear on Sunday. That's all I ask, Stan.

DIOS. All right if you want me to spell chech everything you write DICK. I spell weight wrong and that is all you come up with?? Well fuck you fanboy! I am not a die hard Hatton fan. I like both guys but I can not tolerate the ignorance that you keep spreading on the forum. Everyone is now dumber for having read your comments.
DIOS THIS DIOS THAT. YOU ARE just a god damned nuthugger and I hate you and everythign you represent.

In other words, I got into your head in the span of a few posts??

Thanks, Stan.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Do you know what hyperbole means and do you have any links to the racism you speak of?

If you want an example of hyperbole, just refer to any of the "Hatton broke four of Castillo's ribs!!!!LOL OMG " comments.

If you want an example of racist comments, refer to the YT videos. Or maybe just to the "monkey" comments on this very board. (Mildly odd that those didn't hit your radar screen)

[hackey100]

Firstly, that's not hyperbole, that's a mistake and considering that Mayweather continues to make a monkey out of himself, the comments don't really surprise me. The only youtube clip i have seen using racist language was by Mayweather himself, unless you can provide me with a link.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Firstly, that's not hyperbole, that's a mistake and considering that Mayweather continues to make a monkey out of himself, the comments don't really surprise me. The only youtube clip i have seen using racist language was by Mayweather himself, unless you can provide me with a link.

No. It's not a mistake. It is a wild exaggeration in an attempt to elevate the status of the fighter.

It is, as Mr. Webster would call it, an "extravagant exaggeration".

[Violent Demise]

Hatton is not only Mayweathers best opponent so far but will also prove to be too good for Floyd.

Welsh,

I appreciate and respect your perspective.

If Mayweather soundly beats Hatton, does that mean that Mayweather is much better than you thought?... Or that Hatton wasn't as good as you thought?

DIOS; may I ask what your opinion of Hatton would be if he did get Floyd out of there on the 8th? Will it change mildly or drastically, and how would you rank him against the top WW's? I personally feel Mayweather will clean house on Ricky, but you seem to have a barely masked disdain for Hatton, so I was curious what your feelings of him would be should he pull off a major upset against Floyd.

I'll try to address the points in your post:

a) I have a fairly low opinion of Hatton's overall skills package. I believe that he feasted on older fighters. I do not think that it is a coincidence that he looked his worst against the younger and fresher fighters who can match his physicality and energy. Yeah, I know. he only had six hours notice for Collazo. He hasd leukemia for Urango.

I believe that he would have lost a rematch with Collazo. The rematch he promised and then ran back to 140.

b) I believe that Hatton - LIKE SOME OTHER FIGHTERS - is "hiding" at a lower weight. It is said that Hatton is not a natural welterweight. Huh? He turned pro a decade ago at 140. Is it unreasonable to expect an athletic man who works out for ten years to gain seven pounds? He is 154 on fight night. As high as Shane Mosley, and higher than Mayweather and Judah. How is that not a Welterweight?

c) If Hatton beats Floyd, then Mayweather's status ("modern great") will be diminished in my mind. Great fighters DO lose to middling fighters (see Barrera-Junior Jones), but not to one-note fighters of Hatton's calibre.

d) If Floyd wins, that does NOT elevate FMJ in my mind. It is an expectation, and I'm still mildly disappointed that FMJ chose the easy fight for money. He pissed away a year of his (fading) prime by taking this fight. Cotto or Mosley was the fight to make. Especially Cotto. Miguel showed that he has a blend of boxing and pressure that is truly a stepchild of Duran/Chavez. He was impressive moving backwards vs SSM.

e) My disdain is MUCH less for Hatton than it is for Hatton's unreasonable fans. The Hattonettes have displayed a bottomless capacity for hyperbole: "Ricky broke four of castillo's ribs!!"... "Ricky will knock out Mayweather in 5 rounds!!"...etc. Additionally, the Hatton groupies (SOME) have instigated a distinct racial tinge. Doubt that? See YouTube comments.

f) Ricky and his camp have been dishonest in their comments to the public and media. Example?

From SecondsOut:

But Hatton knows just how difficult it will be to defeat the Pretty Boy. "He's got amazing skills," Hatton admitted. "He's pound-for-pound the best in the world, he's great to watch, skilful, lightning fast, I always watch his fights. But I don't think he's the biggest fighter in the world. I don't think he's got much physical strength. When I went to see him fight Gatti, I saw him at the weigh-in and asked myself the question whether or not he was big enough or tough enough to hold me off for 12 rounds. And that'll be the big question once the fight comes along."

Now... didn't I hear Hatton laud his four rounds with Castillo as "more excitement than Mayweather's whole career"?

Another example? Sure. This is what Ricky said this week:

Ricky Hatton: “I’m jumping out of my skin (waiting for this fight). It is a fight I’ve always wanted. You’ve spoken to Billy, he’ll tell you it is a fight we’ve always fancied style wise. We’ve fancied this fight for years and when the fight came about we knew it was going to be a huge fight. We wanted it (the fight) years ago but in the meantime Floyd’s become (a) bigger (name). I’ve become (a) bigger (name) and the time is right.”

But this is what Team Hatton said previously:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

Stevie Wonder can see the contradiction.

g) I'm a Latino. Maybe I have a bit too much of that latin-macho-thing, but here goes:

Floyd was in Ricky's face calling him "a bitch", a pussy, etc. He told Ricky that he would buttfuck him. Ricky said nothing. This was in LA and in New York. OK, fine. Ricky is taking the high road. I can respect that.

But then they get to London and manchester, and Ricky starts talking and cursing. Huh? Wait- where was this Hatton on the first few legs of the tour? Either you have taken the high road...or you haven't. Ricky said that the insults had no effect. But for two months running, he has been talking about how FMJ "disrespected" him and he has taken many shots at FMJ on 24/7.

Floyd talks alot of shit. But how can you disagree with this:

"When have you ever heard Ricky Hatton talk trash before? He won't say it to my face but in front of the cameras he is really acting up. We did a five-city tour and the only time he talked tough was when he was home in Manchester. Now he's talking on HBO's 24/7 too. You know what I call him—a camera gangster. If I'm going to talk about you I am going to do it to your face, right in front of you."


I know that the British are kind of fey. Personally? If I have something to say ABOUT a man, I'm going to say it TO the man. Man Law.


Finally...h) If Hatton loses - and heaven help the Hattonettes if he is stopped - then that validates my opinion that RH is "B minus" level fighter. I will be INTOLERABLE to the Hatton groupies if Hatton loses.

....it'll be interesting to see how many SC's I get for speaking the truth.

Fucking outstanding post. I too am looking forward to Dec 9 to see what these Hatton groupies will have to say. Or if they will even come on.