Hey Britkid, just wondering what you mean by redemption? Also with some of your intangibles does that mean Tyson can be included?

So with quality of opposition Louis could only fight what was around, which was fair enough, but this is often a marker for all ATG. Should it be counted?

In that case Ali would probably be top of heavies, but he had flaws in other areas.

How about how they would compete against champs from other eras. Should this be included?