Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Well I'm not high on either one I gotta say I say Duddy take some big hits against Campas and was impressed with how he took them and fought back. (That fight was candidate for FOTY)
In that fight Duddy showed courage and loads of heart.
If they met today I'd take Duddy by decision.
Lee's too green for my likings, skills are there but still too green for my likings.
Campas was 35 and well past his prime and Duddy got a gift decision against Campas, plus Campas was only ever goodish even in his prime. It was good fight no doubt but i don't think getting controversial decision over shot Campas is that much of an achievement.
You misread my statement.
I was pointing out that he showed heart & courage taking bits from Campas whos still a hard puncher even today. Campas is a gate keeper and up and coming prospects fight him if you get past him then your good to move on to the next level. I didn't say the decision was right however the decision stands and that's what I'm going by. I too think Campas won. Still he was awarded the win and that's that.
Check out how many prospects he's blasted out in the last 2 or 3 years.
Sometimes as fans we put too much emphasis when figthers struggle in certain fights. I brougth this up during the Cintron thread where you were saying cause he struggled in his last fight he would loose to Williams. Going on that performance. ODLH struggled with John John bad early in his career but still ODLH went on to beat other fighters who were much better then John John. Duddy struggled with Campas but learned that he can take some shots and dig down and fight on till the end.
Campas is a gate keeper and up and coming prospects fight him if you get past him then your good to move on to the next level.

But in my opinion Duddy didn't get past Campas, he got a gift decision plus you have to realize after his fight with Duddy he lost to 19-1 fighter and then struggled against journeyman Norberto Bravo. So that just shows you what kind of level Campas was at in that time in his career.

Sometimes as fans we put too much emphasis when figthers struggle in certain fights. I brougth this up during the Cintron thread where you were saying cause he struggled in his last fight he would loose to Williams.

I never thought Cintron would beat Williams in the first place even before his fight with Jesse Feliciano.

Going on that performance. ODLH struggled with John John bad early in his career but still ODLH went on to beat other fighters who were much better then John John. Duddy struggled with Campas but learned that he can take some shots and dig down and fight on till the end.

Molina was former IBF Superfeatherweight champion and made 8 defense's he also made 3 defense's earlier in his career but lost twice to Tony Lopez. Molina moved up to Lightweight and did give Oscar De La Hoya all he could handle but the difference is, Molina was still in his peak plus he had not lost in almost 5 years. Oscar De La Hoya only had 16 pro fights at the time so he dealt with former world champion who hadn't lost in 5 years pretty good if you ask me. Thats totally different to Duddy struggling with an old shot Campas, plus Oscar De La Hoya had shown even before Molina fight that he had the skills to be elite Duddy never has.