Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan
To me I don't think Ali was even near the greatest fighter in the heavies.Let's be honest the guy held entirely too much and was never penalized.I mean I watched the Frazier trilogy recently and not once was he deducted a point for constantly pull down behind the neck.I counted 108 clinches in the 2nd Ali fight mostly from Frazier trying to come in close and Ali grabbing behind the head.Holding is a foul.Rule number 1 in all off the organization hand books is there is NO HOLDING ALLOWED.Not only was it so obvious in the Frazier fight but The Shavers,fight along with Bonavena,Norton,Foreman and yes they are all in the tapes watch them carefully.Another I could never understand late in Ali's career I must ask how in the hell do you win a round by sitting on the ropes and tapping at your oppenents head.To me the fight game went a different route almost to an amateur level when Ali came around.Rounds went to the guy who landed more points but back before Ali it was too the agressor and the man who came to fight.Anyway I would take many to beat Ali if the ref wasn't so threatened by Ali's entourage and following.
Have your 4 CC on me well said i never can understand where all this *Ali Is Unbeatable* Stuff comes from, i mean really and truthfuly you could make a case for Ali having 10 losses on his record. And IMO he should for 100 percent have at least 8 losses on his record he got gift decisions off. Young, Shavers, Norton 3rd fight, and if he would have lost these fights like a lot of people thought he should have then would people still consider him Greatest Heavyweight of all time ??