* Who is the Greatest African fighter? *

[eagle]

What about Sumbu Kalambay, he fought out of Italy but was from Africa originally. Joseph "King Kong"(a bantamweight) Agbeko is gonna be one to watch in the future. I gotta throw in Joshua Clottey, he will be worthy soon enough. I would also put Ben Tackie in the honorable mentions just for his toughness.

Kalambay had some great wins. Good call.
Any news on Harry Simon. He is on the comeback trail right? Could be an interesting addition to the 160 ranks.

[CutMeMick]

Can't disagree with much of the list, if anything Braithwaite wouldn't be near my top ten, he's got a win over Dale Brown. Really that's about it, maybe Cantatore too.

Not sure if I'd have Ouma in the top ten even though I'm biased clearly but still I'd definitely have him over Braithwaite and Mabuza. I like Mabuza a lot but he's got a win over Chapo Vargas and Cruz Carbajal and that's about it, he performed well enough against Marquez but in the end those are just losses. Good losses but losses. He may end in the end accomplish more than either of them but so far I'm not sure he's there yet.

CC though, interesting topic

Thanks Ouma for your input..
I gotta say I was rushing this list and had too many things going on at once...
But I got it started and tried to finish it today.

What about Sumbu Kalambay, he fought out of Italy but was from Africa originally. Joseph "King Kong"(a bantamweight) Agbeko is gonna be one to watch in the future. I gotta throw in Joshua Clottey, he will be worthy soon enough. I would also put Ben Tackie in the honorable mentions just for his toughness.

Great call...
I completely overlooked Sumbu.
He's def. in the top 10 and that would drop off Wayne off the top 10.

[Tysonbruno]

Gerrie Coetzee WBA heavyweight champ and Pierre Fourie lightheavy did'nt win world title but gave Bob Foster to good scuffles

[SigmaMu]

I don't like the heavy weight division and you know this but I like watching Samuel Peter.
He is not the greatest African fighter but I don't know many African Heavy Weights that are.
I will be tuning in for his March bout against Oleg Maskaev

[CutMeMick]

Gerrie Coetzee WBA heavyweight champ and Pierre Fourie lightheavy did'nt win world title but gave Bob Foster to good scuffles

I gave Gerrie honor mentions....

I don't like the heavy weight division and you know this but I like watching Samuel Peter.
He is not the greatest African fighter but I don't know many African Heavy Weights that are.
I will be tuning in for his March bout against Oleg Maskaev

[CutMeMick]

Also was wondering what people thought about Tiger being #2....

Thoughts anyone?

I have no problem with him being there.
Is Sam Peter close to getting on the list?

Def. deserves honor mentions...

eagle, your thoughts on Ike above Ayub?

[CutMeMick]

*The list has been updated.

[No Contest]

I got a few more, John "the Beast" Mugabi, monster up until he met Hagler. If your counting Jamaicans you gotta throw in Emile Griffith. This one may be on the borderline and I nkow you probably know of this guy....Cornelius "Boza" Edwards, he fought alot of big names but you probably remember him for getting his butt whooped by Arguello.

[No Contest]

Oh yeah Ike Ibeabuchi, put him in the what could have been section

[CutMeMick]

I got a few more, John "the Beast" Mugabi, monster up until he met Hagler. If your counting Jamaicans you gotta throw in Emile Griffith. This one may be on the borderline and I nkow you probably know of this guy....Cornelius "Boza" Edwards, he fought alot of big names but you probably remember him for getting his butt whooped by Arguello.

I did come across John & Boza but not top 10.
Def. honor mentions to both.

Oh yeah Ike Ibeabuchi, put him in the what could have been section

Falls waay too short, the wins were VERY good but too short of a career to compare against guys who went on to win titles & defend agains some of the best of their times.

[CutMeMick]

I got a few more, John "the Beast" Mugabi, monster up until he met Hagler. If your counting Jamaicans you gotta throw in Emile Griffith. This one may be on the borderline and I nkow you probably know of this guy....Cornelius "Boza" Edwards, he fought alot of big names but you probably remember him for getting his butt whooped by Arguello.

Also Emile is from the Virgin Islands so that wouldn't count.
Same reason I accidently put McCallum there.... :P

[OumaFan]

Its easy to forget now but I remember Dan Rafeal had Ledwahba in his P4P top fifteen. Pac kind of ended that.

David Kamau was fairly hyped up for a while.

Can't believe I didn't think of Mugabi.

Can't think of any more right now.

Anybody know anything about this Munyai that's fighing in England. Bit off topic but I've heard some good things about him.

[CutMeMick]

CC though, interesting topic

cc#761 on me Ouma

Was wondering what your thoughts were on Ike over Ayub... I had the biggest issue with those 2.
Any thoughts?

[No Contest]

I like when you do these lists with old school fighters, four of those guys in your top ten I really need to check out: Dick Tiger(only saw his loss to Foster), Dingaan Thobela(unknown to me), Ayub Kalue (who? ), Brian Mitchell(he must be South African :P) but great thread, I am all about boxing history.

[Violent Demise]

Violent Demise,
You wanna know something....
I had the most trouble figuring out if Ike should be above Ayub or Ayub above Ike.
I know you'll say Ike off the top of your head but I needed to do a double take on their careers to make sure Ike went above Ayub.

I think very highly of Quartey as you know. I think he's fine where he's at. I would personally put him 3rd on your list. But I got no problem with your selection