60's ALI: there is no HW great that could have beaten him.

[ICB]

Ali was at his sparkling best during the 60's and yes he got caught by Henry Cooper but he got up and won in the next round. Also that fight was before Ali became champion.

Yes and he had to have smelling salts to revive him when they wern't even allowed in UK at that time i believe so really Ali should of been DQ. and lets not even get started on the torn glove controversy.

So you have no comment on the Aaron Pryor mixed bottle when I've brought it up and there is actual video evindece of this in the in between rounds.
But you want to bring up salts & a cut glove inot this debate....
Come on ICB surely if you know about the salts & glove you know about the mixed drink. The other time in one of our Alexis & Pryor debates you said and I quote "I don't know much about the mixed drink so I can't comment"
What is there to know, Pryor was given a substance during a resting period I came out gungd blazing like someone had just lit a fire cracker in him.
Oh! and also check out the Bowe - Bruno thread.

Why are you bringing up things non related to this thread ?? its well known fact Ali had smelling salts that wern't allowed in UK at that time its not an opinion its a fact. I don't know what was in Aaron Pryor's drink so we can only speculate, im no expert on what is mixed in drinks. But all the things you *think* was in Aaron Pryor's bottle is an opinion not fact thats pretty clear cut to me.

Pryor always rushed out of his corner and always had amazing stamina.

I bring it up cause it seems funny to me that you had no comment on that situation but here with Ali it appears as though you were in the corner and saw it all.
You want to talk about facts?
Facts are that those were the best Heavy's around and you are trying to break them down like if they were nothing.
I told you yesterday check out their records and see how they all fought eachother one thing they all have in common is?
You guessed it they lost to Ali that's why he was the best in that era cause he beat them all.
20 yrs. from now someone will try and breakdown Lennox opposition they'll crap about Vitaly, Rahman, Evander but the fact of the matter is they were the best around and he beat them.

I bring it up cause it seems funny to me that you had no comment on that situation but here with Ali it appears as though you were in the corner and saw it all.

I see it in Ali's corner what they were doing its well known fact, and as for Pryor vs Arguello controversy, i said i had no comment on it because we can only speculate. I also said i wouldn't be surprised if he did have some kind of substance in his drink, but there's a lot of controversy's in boxing like someone in the crowd shouting out * body shot body shot* just before Hopkins stops Oscar with a body shot but like i said we can only speculate.

Facts are that those were the best Heavy's around and you are trying to break them down like if they were nothing.
I told you yesterday check out their records and see how they all fought eachother one thing they all have in common is?

If you see my previous comment's i said they were best Heavyweight's at that time, but that doesn't make them *great* Heavyweight's like Welshdevilrob was trying to imply.