My British P4P list

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You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB.

Don't see how you work that one out, Reid is former World champion and is very durable fighter, and Sergey Tatevosyan had never been stopped going into Froch fight. And he had been in there with likes of Lucian Bute and Howard Eastman.

Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis

It was a flash knockdown and Katsidis got right up and continued to batter Earl, except for that split second knockdown Earl got his a** handed to him.

Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds,

In terms of damage Katsidis done a lot more damage, Earl was just caught cold against Khan.

Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

And Earl was coming off a bad beating, and was considered past his peak.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

Yup, I'm with you lee on this one. . Earl had been involved in FOTY contender against Katsidis who is now a player on the world stage at his weight, whilst Tatevosyan's surprise turnover of Rudy Markussen wasn't really on the same scale at all. As for Reid, like lee says the layoff for Reid was a big difference. He'd been retired whilst Earl had been working hard to rebuild after an excellent fight and hard-man performance against Katsidis.

Another point I'd also like to add is that Khan has been jumping up the rankings and progressing a lot this year, whilst Froch has really stagnated a bit and slipped in my estimations because of his failure to either keep busy or get big fights. Two fights against that quality opposition just isn't enough at this stage for Froch.

Yup, I'm with you lee on this one. . Earl had been involved in FOTY contender against Katsidis

He got battered in that fight.

Who is now a player on the world stage at his weight, whilst Tatevosyan's surprise turnover of Rudy Markussen wasn't really on the same scale at all.

Earl caught Katsidis off balance with flash knockdown, apart from that he got a beating he didn't even look like he should be in the same ring.

And Tatevosyan went the distance with Lucian Bute who is now a major player in the Super Middleweight division.


As for Reid, like lee says the layoff for Reid was a big difference. He'd been retired whilst Earl had been working hard to rebuild after an excellent fight and hard-man performance against Katsidis.

He had been gone for just a bit over 1 year, he had a warm up fight going into Froch fight. Earl got battered in Katsidis fight i don't understand why you keep bringing up that fight, except for flash knockdown he was beaten badly.

Another point I'd also like to add is that Khan has been jumping up the rankings and progressing a lot this year, whilst Froch has really stagnated a bit and slipped in my estimations because of his failure to either keep busy or get big fights.

Froch has had two good performance's this year against two durable opponents who have been in there with World class opposition. Khan fought Limond who was feather fisted and was dropped and almost stopped. He had a good win over a shot Earl, but in your mind you think thats better than dominating Reid and Sergey Tatevosyan ??