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Maybe but those fights happened in excess of 3 years beore when he was fighting Froch and was at that time fighting actively, not after a long layoff wanting to earn a bit more cash.Originally Posted by leftylee
He was still competing at high level way after that like against Ottke, Magee, etc.
Maybe but those fights happened in excess of 3 years beore when he was fighting Froch and was at that time fighting actively, not after a long layoff wanting to earn a bit more cash.
Earl has only been in with one world class name and did he win ?? nope, did he get a pasting ?? yep.
Name one world class fighter that Froch has been in with which they are not SHOT, Earls beat Romanov the current EBU lightweight champ in prime.
Earl was beaten by 9-0 fighter in 2005
At least Ricky Burns was known on the British scene and had 6 fights more.
He went 12 rounds with Bute just before Froch fight so he had plenty left.
Yes and how many rounds did he win Icei'll tell you just 1 on two of the scorecards so that makes him real good does'nt it.
Well it was only in 2004 and he did give Eastman a good argument, and remember Eastman has been in there with the likes of Hopkins, Joppy.
Yes and got beat by both of them.
Give me examples of when i have said this ?? Oh don't tell me your on about Collazo vs Hatton situation are you ??
Yep
Oh well im sorry to hurt your feelings but facts are facts, Collazo was caught cold by flash knockdown he wasn't hurt at all. If that isn't flash knockdown what is then ??
You tell me, but a flash knockdown certainly was not when Earl dropped Katsidis.
Katsidis was caught off balance he was knocked down and got straight back up and continued to give Earl a beating, except for that split second moment. Earl was never in the fight and got a bad beating.
So he never rocked Katsidis then ?? yes he did take a look after the knockdown Katsidis was wobbling.
Earl was not warmed up properly and he didn't look to have really any fire in him and soon as the bell sounded i could see it. He got caught cold as he didn't expect Khan to come out so fast after the 1st knock down he was finished.
Not warmed up properlyso every fighter who gets bet in the 1st round it's because there not warmed up properly, give over, the fact of the matter is Earl did'nt realise how good Khan was and got took to school.
Because Katsidis landed about 100 more punches.
And did'nt Ko him in the ring or force the ref to stop it and also Earl as throwing shots back when Katsidis was on the attack but he never with Khan as Khan gave him no space to do so. What does that say about Katsidis' then
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Like Earl, Khan, Warren, would admit that get real. Every boxer thinks they have one last good one in them, and Khan is hardly going to admit Earl is past his best, and Warren manages Khan so you think he would say Earl was past it ?? just think about that for a second.[/u]
Warren also mangaes Earl too BTW and it's funny the way people say Earl was shot after he got destroyed by Khan to the same token Castillo was shot when he got destroyed by Hatton. I don't know ey
Plenty on this forum thought Earl had a decent chance because of his power, and they see how feather fisted Limond wobbled and dropped Khan. But i also see a lot of members on here saying Earl was past his peak.
What happened in the next round did not Khan break his nose and jaw to Limond
Yes but how does one good performance against decent opponent, make him rated higher than Froch ?? explain that.
Did I ever say he's rated higher than Froch
Reid was considered one of the top Super Middleweights until he lost to Lacy, and even for 4 rounds he was fighting even with Lacy until he got hit on the break and went down. And that seemed to badly effect him, Reid is a tough durable opponent who was Former world champion, and has been in there with a lot of World class opposition and Froch stopped him in fine fashion. Was Reid past his peak ?? yes but was he still durable tough opponent ?? yes.
Name one world class fighter that Froch has been in with which they are not SHOT, Earls beat Romanov the current EBU lightweight champ in prime.
I'll return that question to you and say name me one World class fighter Khan has beat ?? Romanov is decent at European level but i see his last fight and he struggled with 43-11 fighter, he is goodish with quite a bit of power but thats it.
At least Ricky Burns was known on the British scene and had 6 fights more.
They were both beaten by mere novice's but they both have had decent careers so far, because Burns has achieved quite a bit in his career so far, and Dmitry Pirog has gone undefeated in 10 pro fights.
Yes and how many rounds did he win Ice
It makes him durable tough opponent, Bika also only won 2 or 3 rounds vs Bute but he is still tough durable opponent. And considering Bute is one of the top Super Middleweights in the world at the moment that was quite an achievement, plus Froch is the only man to ever stop him so he deserves props for that and more props than what you and Super are giving him. Oh and while we are on the subject how many rounds did Earl win vs Katsidis ?? because by your logic it doesn't make Sergey Tatevosyan good because he only won 1 or 2 rounds vs Bute, but Earl didn't win any rounds vs Katsidis so that makes him even worse by that logic does it not ??
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If you can't see thats flash knockdown then im speechless, because your the only one that doesn't consider that flash knockdown and im talking about Hatton vs Collazo.
ou tell me, but a flash knockdown certainly was not when Earl dropped Katsidis.
A flash knockdown is when you are not badly effected by it and you are up straight away, both of the things i mentioned Katsidis done and he then went about kicking Earl's a**.
So he never rocked Katsidis then ?? yes he did take a look after the knockdown Katsidis was wobbling.
I didn't see Katsidis hurt i see him get floored get up and then dominate Earl, but thats my opinion.
Not warmed up properly Roll Eyes so every fighter who gets bet in the 1st round it's because there not warmed up properly, give over, the fact of the matter is Earl did'nt realise how good Khan was and got took to school.
You are taking things out of context i didn't say every fighter who gets beat in 1st round isn't warmed up
But you could see he was not warmed up, im not taking anything away from Kahn he done the job in impressive fashion. But once you get caught cold like Earl did your finished just like Enzo vs Hobson 2.
And did'nt Ko him in the ring or force the ref to stop it and also Earl as throwing shots back when Katsidis was on the attack but he never with Khan
In the final round he battered Earl all along the ropes with about 30 punches, its obvious Katsidis done more damage, because the beating lasted longer.
as Khan gave him no space to do so. What does that say about Katsidis' then Huh please tell me ICB Wink
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Never really thought much of Katsidis either except he is exciting, i mean in his last fight he had big problems with mediocre fighter like Czar.
Warren also mangaes Earl too BTW and it's funny the way people say Earl was shot after he got destroyed by Khan to the same token Castillo was shot when he got destroyed by Hatton. I don't know ey
Plenty said Earl was not at his peak, Khan is Warren's hype machine and makes him a lot of money, do you honestly think Warren would admit Earl wasn't in his peak ??
What happened in the next round did not Khan break his nose and jaw to Limond
Yep but it doesn't change the fact that he was badly hurt and floored by feather fisted opponent, who has mostly fought fighters with losing records
Did I ever say he's rated higher than Froch
Robin Reid
Sergey Tatevosyan
Brian Magee
Tony Dodson
I'll take these opponent over.
Graham Earl
Willie Limond
Scott Lawton
Steffy Bull
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