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Dont really agree with that Bilbo. The way you explain seems to make sense,but race relations are a bit more complicated than the bully on the play ground let's be fair.

By the logic of that story it's ok for black people to be racist to white people?

So it's ok for a black person to come up to me and call me a white F*** because my ancestors may have enslaved his ancestors.

I can see where your coming from though dont get me wrong.

But Racism cannot be justified.Regardless.
The thing is nowadays people have reduced racism to calling people names as if that's the ultimate form of racism.

It isn't, not even close.

How does for example B Hop saying he will not lose to a white guy compare to say the complete disenfranchment of the majority of black and other ethnic minorities in being able to vote in the US elections in New York and other cities and states?

How does his name calling compare with the fact in the US the average black man only earns 67% of what the average white man earns?

Unemployment rates are much higher for blacks than for whites. The chances of a black person going to university are much less than a white person.

There are more blacks today under the poverty line in the US than white people.

So clearly there is still 'real' racism going on, but it's unreported because it's done under the veil of political correctness.

Saying you will never lose to a white man isn't racist as there is no offense actually being committed.

It's like equating a man saying he would love to smash his bosses' face to an actual murderer who killed his boss.

All this emphasis on name calling being racism just goes to obscure the real racism that takes place all the time.
How does for example B Hop saying he will not lose to a white guy compare to say the complete disenfranchment of the majority of black and other ethnic minorities in being able to vote in the US elections in New York and other cities and states?

Your going completely off the subject, your 2nd comment has nothing to do with Hopkins implying White people are inferior.

How does his name calling compare with the fact in the US the average black man only earns 67% of what the average white man earns?

What has that got to with Hopkins implying what he did ?? if all people thought that way the whole world would be racist.

And all your other comments are completely off the subject, when i was a young i had people call me racist names and im white. So does that mean i have to become a racist myself ?? there is a lot racism everywhere not just for black people. But that doesn't mean you can use that as an excuse to come out with racist comments yourself sorry but i totally disagree.
It's purely hype to get a big fight made and for the fans to be interested in it Ice. If he would have said he'd never lose to a Welsh boyo with cowardly Italian blood in him nobody would have said he was racist because he would have been talking about nationality.

If he would have said. 'Joe you're a kunt and I never lose to kunt's', again nobody would have said he was racist.

But because he mentioned a colour certain people get all up in arms and shout 'Racist!'

It had nothing to do with racism whatsoever, he's just trying to get a mental edge over Calzaghe and also trying to hype up a potential fight.

He's a salesman and a predator who got into 'fighting' character.

I personally think he did exactly the right thing because even now people are still talking about it
It's purely hype to get a big fight made and for the fans to be interested in it Ice. If he would have said he'd never lose to a Welsh boyo with cowardly Italian blood in him nobody would have said he was racist because he would have been talking about nationality.

There are other ways to hype a fight than racist comments, im sorry Bilbo if i sound like im ranting on. But i totally disagree a lot of people go through some sort of racism in there life. But that doesn't mean you have to become a racist yourself thats a poor excuse IMO. because it doesn't matter what color you are, everyone is a human being everyone is an individual, like i said when i was really young i had people call me racist comments, but i realize thats only certain individual's, it doesn't mean i have to hate a whole race because of it.

If he would have said. 'Joe you're a kunt and I never lose to kunt's', again nobody would have said he was racist.

Well thats totally different because thats a swear word and that would not be implying anything racist.

But because he mentioned a colour certain people get all up in arms and shout 'Racist!'

Yes he mentioned a skin color and implied that white people are inferior, of course that is a racist. Because he is disrespecting a whole race.