How is CHavez that much greater than Mayweather or Dela Hoya? he is certainly one of the best mexicans to ever fight, but he was badly being outboxed by Meldrick Taylor before he ko'ed a guy who fought the wrong fight. Whitaker outboxed him, Dela Hoya tore him up. Obviously Mayweather isn't the greatest, but the reasons you give for him not being the greatest are wrong. Is he the greatest boxer? No, but p4p is he one of the most skilled to ever fight? Of course, there are maybe ten fighters who have ever foughten who possess his skills. People forget he is a natural 130 pounder fighting these way bigger guys and beating them badly. There are only a few guys in history who have done it to the same degree and they are guys like Leonard, Roy JOnes Jr., Robinson, Henry Armstrong... I was just watching ROy Jones Jr. and I can't see how people can't think he is in the top 20 p4p... People psychologically have a nostalgic view on sports. Hell Jim Brown said football players can't hit nowadays yet on average they are hitting almost twice as hard(pounds per square inch) as people did in his day. REgardless people who deny that Mayweather is one of the most talented guys to ever box are smoking something. Would he beat RObinson, or Gavilan or Turpin? Who knows, but they are natural welterweights and he ISN'T. Bring the 130 version of Mayweather up and its a way closer fight. To say he isn't as good as Robinson is fair enough, but to say Robinson is way out of his league is crap IMO because all those top guys had challenges from lesser opponents than Floyd or Roy Jones or even Oscar Dela Hoya.