Does anybody think Hopkins can beat Calzaghe?

[Kel]

This is boxing of course Hopkins can win with the correct gameplan. If he can find a way to slow Joe and frustrate him he is halfway there. I'm going with a UD win for Joe though.

[Bx730NY]

Its not like Joes exactly a spring chicken at 35

He is more fresher than Hopkins is.

Not really,and hes certainly not as good tactically as Hopkins

Are you kidding me? Not as good tactically? If being dirty is a tactic, then Bhop is in a league of his own but otherwise, there is no comparison as far as tactical skill goes. I mean that in Joes favor.

Joe is a supreme athlete with great speed, skill, chin and determination. You saw against Kesler his fighting spirit as well when he got hit clean and came right back at him.

I'm not even a huge fan of Joe but I think he is the only fighter that I can't see anyone in around his weight beating him. Too bad we discovered him so late in America. Otherwise, he would have been p4p #1 and certainly a consideration for my favorite fighter.

He has really impressed me and I have really grown to like the guy as a fighter.

Oh stop it with the dirty crap,its old,its tired and it hasnt been true for years.His last two fights that went really dirty were Echols(who was dirtier by far) and Holmes(though I cant see how you can blaim Hopkins for being dirty when Holmes got nipple rash from his trunks)

Well I guess you're blinded by your affection for your fighter so I won't go any further with you on this. What I will do however is challenge you to make a sig or cc bet or whatever if hopkins ever stops playing games and takes the fight.

[Violent Demise]

Hopkins was suppose to lose against Trinidad, Tarver and Wright. Now again he's suppose to lose to Calzaghe. I don't see it happening.

[Kev]

What is there not to understand?

Monkey was making a fair point..

This Ske cat was talkking sense and bieng respectfull..So what it was stange he was using caps

But you guys was strait up rude and sarcastic to him..

You say how can bernard deal with what joe has but how can joe deal with what bernard has?

Joe is real good and if he can keep distance and shoot shots whether they go over the shoulder or hit the gloves i think he can score points.. But honestly i dont think there is any hope hopkins will let joe keep distance at the times he wants it..

I think Bernard knows hes got to keep far out of range or far to close in joes chest at the times in which he is doing his thing.. And thats an ugly fight..But thats bernard taking the decision

lol clearly you didn't understand my last post :P

I was referring to Northa Pug misunderstanding Monkey's post about Hopkins not being supposed to beat Felix Trinidad and thinking that Monkey was saying Felix could knock Hopkins out

As for Ske if you look at the posts above your own you'll see I gave him a coolclick and said it was wrong that people were having a go at him just because he supported BHop.

So in summation, 'what is there not to understand?'

In your case a lot

[Fenster]

Hopkins was suppose to lose against Trinidad, Tarver and Wright. Now again he's suppose to lose to Calzaghe. I don't see it happening.

That's good.

Calzaghe was suppose to lose to Manfredo, Bika and Kessler according your dumb-as-fuck asssssss.

[eagle]

Anybody who sees this as anything but a close fight is stupid. Calzaghe should and probably would win a UD on workrate alone, but anyone who says Joe C wins easy is deluded. Hopkins knows all the tricks and is old and crafty enough to make Joe look bad. If he has to start using elbows and headbutts to win he will.
Not even a prime Middleweight RJJ could destroy Hopkins, and Bernard is a far more complete fighter now. Joe C is great but he is not the fighter MW RJJ was.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Calzaghe would win a UD against Hopkins at this point in their careers, I would still like to see Joe Balls fight Kessler again in 2008 or Pavlik intsead of Hopkins.
Hopkins has all the tricks in the book but it won't be enough for a man in his mid forties to overcome Calzaghe.

[NuthaPug]

Don't you love it when people can't even be bothered to read your posts properly or are incapable of understanding them :P

Yup, his sarcasm went right over my head first read through. Stupid, incapable me.

Hmm. Now I wonder if I read this properly or if I am capable of understanding it if I did.

Better get it right the first time, every time, when Bilbo's on board. Humble apologies for my humanity.

But back to the topic ... I'd love to see Hopkins beat Calzaghe. I think he could. Not so sure he would. I think he could have beat Taylor, too, twice, but he didn't.

[Trainer Monkey]

Hopkins was suppose to lose against Trinidad, Tarver and Wright. Now again he's suppose to lose to Calzaghe. I don't see it happening.

That's good.

Calzaghe was suppose to lose to Manfredo, Bika and Kessler according your dumb-as-F*** asssssss.

If anybody,and I mean anybody, bet on Manfredo get somebody to take over power of attorney for them, because they are obviously no longer competent to manage their own finances and need protection from the world,and themselves

[p4pking]

I dont see it even being close. Calzaghe is right at the zenith of all he can be. Hopkins gets dominated and cruelly.

Will be a final paycheck for Hopkins, I suppose.

A strange way for him to go out, Ive always liked Hopkins a lot. He just cannot hang with this Calzaghe though. Too busy and with the brains to make it work when it counts.

The only thing Hopkins can do is to try and off set Calzaghe's rhythm with clinches, and dirty fighting. The only problem is that Hopkins is nowhere near active enough to keep up with someone like Calzaghe. Plus Calzaghe punches from all different angles, it will be a rough night for Calzaghe, but i don't see how Hopkins can win to be honest.

Hopkins: Calzaghe at the start of this decade would have been awesome and more of a pick 'em. Now its just Calzaghe all the way. I will still be a little bit surprised if Hopkins actually goes through with this. He usually picks his opponents so carefully.

Hopkins last 4 fights have been Taylor twice, Tarver, and then Winky. How were these opponents so carefully picked.. I don't remember anyone before the fights shouting mismatch.. It's dumb. What's even dumber is the fact that if Hopkins did go through with this Calzaghe fight at his age, and actually managed to win, people would go on about how Calzaghe was another carefully chosen opponent, for whatever reason they want to throw out there.. Why was Winky carefully chosen, because he had to move up to a weight he'd never fought at?? Wouldn't Calzaghe How bout Taylor, when Hopkins fought him... THe carefully picked undefeated olympian with KO power and a great jab 15+ years younger than Hopkins? Or Tarver... It's easy to say whatever you like about him now, but when Hopkins announced the fight noone gave him a chance, he was moving up 15 lbs in weight to fight the linear, undisputed champ who dethroned Roy Jones jr.. Sure Tarver didn't look great in the Johnson fights, but Calzaghe's had less than impressive outings as well. Just recently against Bika, he hardly looked like a fighter who would "easily dominate" Hopkins. Hell if that was his last fight instead of Mikkel people on this forum would probably have it as a pick em fight. It's not as though since he beat Kessler he'll just steamroll anyone else he likes from now on.. He's not getting younger, and he's never fought at light heavy. Every fighter has to fall off at some point. Granted Hopkins day is likely to come sooner than Joe's, and for the record I would put Calzaghe as a wide favourite, but nothings a given, especially when your talking about Hopkins. It's dumb how people are just giving him no chance, and no credit.

[Trainer Monkey]

You dont?
Everybody was
Tarver was too big
Winky was too skilled
Taylor was too young and fast
Hopkins wasnt the fave in any of those fights,the Vegas money was Hopkins to lose in every one of those fights

[No Contest]

Does anyone think he cant? You dont get top 5 p4p on reputation. Its too difficult to predict for me. I have it almost even money right now but Hopkins maybe with a 5% lead I'd have it 55 to 45 just because I think Hopkins has more tricks up his sleeve. Joe's no slouch though, and if the fight turns out to be exciting it'll be his doing.

[Hulk]

IMO Joe wins this fight easy.

Even in Hopkins prime Calzaghe would have a very good chance at beating him.

The best way to beat a counter puncher is to throw puches in 2 or 3s.But Calzaghe throws them in 5 and 6s.

Hopkins has no chance.


Dont be suprised if Hopkins backs out of this fight last minute.

Yeah, I think he has a damn good chance. Hopkins record vs. Southpaws is pretty damn good. And no matter what Joe thinks he's gonna do to make Hopkins fight at a fast pace, Hopkins will fight at HOPKINS' pace.

[porkypara]

Sure calzaghe is great but even the guys who know how great joey is but talk boxing all day every day and know theyr stuff have been caught up in the hype

.. Calzaghe wins easy?

Nobody beats hopkins easy

Joe couldnt have a harder fight if he matched prime for prime against so many people or waited ten years past his prime for the next big superstar..

And about the 5 6 7 punches.. You tell me who ever hit bernard hopkins with more then 2 or 3 punches at the most!?

Exactly.. And the thread is actually shocking me.. Lol.. No diss to joe hes great but the thread should be does anybody think that Joey C can beat bernard..

If you botherd to actually read what I wrote you will see that I said Calzaghe throws 5,6,7 punches in a row.

I did not say he would land all the punches,but it would prevent Hopkins from counter punching very often which is all he does these days.

If Hopkins cant counter punch,then he does not have much to offer offensively and he will go into his defence mode and lose a wide points decision.

[Dark Lord Al]

Hopkins was suppose to lose against Trinidad, Tarver and Wright. Now again he's suppose to lose to Calzaghe. I don't see it happening.

That's good.

Calzaghe was suppose to lose to Manfredo, Bika and Kessler according your dumb-as-F*** asssssss.

If anybody,and I mean anybody, bet on Manfredo get somebody to take over power of attorney for them, because they are obviously no longer competent to manage their own finances and need protection from the world,and themselves

Yes i agree nobody with an once of sence would have bet on Manfredo , i mean the guy has been arrested on two occasions for "impersonating a boxer "