People stop saying Floyd would beat Tito

[ICB]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

He may or may not beat Tito, but whats wrong in people thinking Mayweather could beat Tito ?? remember Tito is 1 dimensional and Mayweather works out his opponent's after a few rounds so that would be a problem straight way for Tito.

A plus side for Tito is that he picks his punches very well, and he uses controlled aggression that would give Mayweather problems. Similar to how Castillo's patient aggression worked. But Mayweather is a much better all round fighter than Tito, and to say he would decapitate someone as skilled as Mayweather is even more ludicrous, than the comments you complain about.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Oscar put on a clinic against Trinidad and outboxed him clearly and IMO won 117-111, Trinidad was outclassed and all people remember are the last 3 rounds. PBF beats Trinidad by a wide UD anytime. Trinidad was good, just not that good!

[milmascaras1]

in addition, de la hoya looked for a rematch with trinidad but tito wouldn't have none of it because he knew he got a gift decision.

[ElTerribleMorales]

in addition, de la hoya looked for a rematch with trinidad but tito wouldn't have none of it because he knew he got a gift decision.

although DLH clearly beat Tito, he wanted the rematch yet when it came to negotiating he wanted it to be 70/30 in his favor, pretty retarded when the guy already holds a win over you on paper, and especially if you wanted redemption, it's as much DLH's fault as it is Trinidad's that the rematch never happened, and it's as much DLH's fault that he wasn't given the win that night as it is the judges

[Hunter]

I definitely dont think it is a forgone conclusion Floyd wins, Floyd has the skills and Tito had the power. Floyd was stunned by Judah and Corley, imagine Tito. Would be a good fight.....

The safe bet would be Floyd UD but you never know......

[ElTerribleMorales]

I definitely dont think it is a forgone conclusion Floyd wins, Floyd has the skills and Tito had the power. Floyd was stunned by Judah and Corley, imagine Tito. Would be a good fight.....

The safe bet would be Floyd UD but you never know......

agreed, and although i think Floyd would have won by UD Trinidad wasn't as limited technically as some are making it out to be, he was no Whitaker or Leonard, but he wasn't as one dimensional as Kelly Pavlik either

[Spicoli]

Floyd hasn't faced anything close to the rounded power and game of a prime Tito when talking 147 let alone 154 where Trinidad proved he could carry his game.Floyd had his unofficial 154 debut against a manufactured welter in JMM...thats it.147...Hatton?JudahI'll spot ya Mosley who btw shook Mayweather to his heels badly with a clean shot in the 2nd round.You think if Trinidad lands a clean left or right off that tall stature of equal measure he could not capitalize much more efficiently?Tito could be boxed and Mayweather has all the assets indeed.Sharp enough to drop him but I see Trinidad getting up smiling as he was known to do.Tito was an entirely different animal than a lightweight Corrales,or the previously mentioned.

[Puerto Rican Punch]

Oscar put on a clinic against Trinidad and outboxed him clearly and IMO won 117-111, Trinidad was outclassed and all people remember are the last 3 rounds. PBF beats Trinidad by a wide UD anytime. Trinidad was good, just not that good!

Thanks god you are not a judge at boxing matches. Really, the fight with Oscar was very, very close, and for me it could be called a draw. However, I see lack of objectivity when I see posts indicating that Tito only won the last 3 ronds (an believe me I saw this fight a lot of times trying to remain objective). In several rounds Tito chased Chicken De La Hoya for almost 2.5 minutes connecting punches 1 at a time during the marathon, then at the closing Chicken stopped and used his superior speed trying to impress and still the rounds. The problem I see is that rounds are of 3 minutes not 30 seconds. With Floyd it could be a great fight or another expensive PPV marathon, but we will never know.

And, I agree Tito was not good... He was GREAT!!!!!!!!! Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito...

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oscar put on a clinic against Trinidad and outboxed him clearly and IMO won 117-111, Trinidad was outclassed and all people remember are the last 3 rounds. PBF beats Trinidad by a wide UD anytime. Trinidad was good, just not that good!

Thanks god you are not a judge at boxing matches. Really, the fight with Oscar was very, very close, and for me it could be called a draw. However, I see lack of objectivity when I see posts indicating that Tito only won the last 3 ronds (an believe me I saw this fight a lot of times trying to remain objective). In several rounds Tito chased Chicken De La Hoya for almost 2.5 minutes connecting punches 1 at a time during the marathon, then at the closing Chicken stopped and used his superior speed trying to impress and still the rounds. The problem I see is that rounds are of 3 minutes not 30 seconds. With Floyd it could be a great fight or another expensive PPV marathon, but we will never know.

And, I agree Tito was not good... He was GREAT!!!!!!!!! Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito...

De La Hoya ran for the last 3 rounds only, he pretty much won 5 of the first 7 rounds then won rounds 8 and 9, then got on his bike and rode it through 10,11, and 12, it was a clear win for DLH, at the very least it should have been 115-113 DLH, Tito would have been lucky to get a draw, this fight is no different than Sturm/DLH

[THE THIRD MAN]

Oscar put on a clinic against Trinidad and outboxed him clearly and IMO won 117-111, Trinidad was outclassed and all people remember are the last 3 rounds. PBF beats Trinidad by a wide UD anytime. Trinidad was good, just not that good!

Thanks god you are not a judge at boxing matches. Really, the fight with Oscar was very, very close, and for me it could be called a draw. However, I see lack of objectivity when I see posts indicating that Tito only won the last 3 ronds (an believe me I saw this fight a lot of times trying to remain objective). In several rounds Tito chased Chicken De La Hoya for almost 2.5 minutes connecting punches 1 at a time during the marathon, then at the closing Chicken stopped and used his superior speed trying to impress and still the rounds. The problem I see is that rounds are of 3 minutes not 30 seconds. With Floyd it could be a great fight or another expensive PPV marathon, but we will never know.

And, I agree Tito was not good... He was GREAT!!!!!!!!! Tito, Tito, Tito, Tito...

No way Tito won a round from 2- 9. Oscar made him look foolish on occaisons. I have watched it through many times, the first round was a nill all draw and from 2 through 9 was as good as Oscar has ever fought. It was a rubbish decision and Tito was a very lucky man that night, he knew he lost and looked surpised when the decision went his way! PBF would box his ears off!

[generalbulldog]

Oscar has no right to complain about the decision considering that he ran for the last 3 1/2 rounds. He made an supreme error in judgment that night instead of doing what he did the 1st 9.

I haven't seen it in 2 or 3 years but I remember it being that after 9 rounds it was 6-3 in favor of Oscar for me, it would have been 7-2 but he started running for the last half of the 9th round, so I gave it to Trinidad. And I gave the last 3 to Trinidad. So on my score card it was 6-6, so the fight was a draw to me.

People keep on saying Oscar got robbed. No one robbed Oscar but himself. He's the one that ran the last 3 1/2 rounds. That's the truth.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

The only thing i have to add in argument for Tito is that the Oscar he fought against that night would have a MUCH better chance of beating Floyd Mayweather.

Not only that, but Floyd has had to use his body strength and/ or pressure in alot recent fights wherever the other guy is a puncher/ aggressive (Judah, Mosley, Hatton etc).

But against a bull like Baldomir Mayweather had to stay away. Against Oscar, he had to be careful (and wait for Oscar to tire) too.

Against Tito, again, physical contact would be kept to a minimum, not because Tito is physical but because Mayweather ain't strong enough to do what he has been doin lately with regards to his inside game (which has been a big part of his game for years). So Mayweather would wind up looking quite negative for the whole duration of the fight.
Lets not forget that Tito in his 147 prime was a puncher for 12 whole rounds (He didn't slow down against Oscar).

With that in mind, Mayweather could definitely do a better job than Oscar on the 'D' but on the 'A' im not so sure. I just get the feeling that with Tito, it is possible that we could have a fighter that is just:

* Too Big
* Too Strong
* Too Fit
* Too Tough
* Punches Too Hard
* A Bridge Too Far

It's funny, I get the feeling that if these guys were at 147 at the same time, neither of em would go near each other due to the associated risks each fighter carries (that we have been debating since 2007 ) unless one of 'em was past their prime (an all to common occurrence in a fighters career these days).

Not really a conclusive post but just redefining the dynamic of the argument

[Lance Uppercut]

I am sure that Floyd would come up with some reason why he couldn't fight TITO

[Mar]

...in boxing anything is possible. One of the great things about the sport. Bradley beat witter and with all the knowledge out there no one saw that coming.

[Master]

Tito was a beast at welter and he beat very good fighters like Campus and Oba carr who were undefeated fighters. I think by the time he fought ODH, he may have been tight at the weight. Before Floyd beat Shane I would have said Tito wins easy, but after that performance I have to give him credit and he could possibly live with Tito, but one mistake and he would be knocked out. Tito broke down opponents and most were negative because they could not handle the power. I say Tito by decision.