Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing

You wouldn't of been interested in this fight when both men were at the top of there game ?? quite surprised at that Wacko, and as for no drama well when we was watching Jones in his prime. Before the fight started we knew it would have no drama because we knew Jones would give his opponent a one sided beating.


he’s also never beaten a boxer with a defense or ability to work a game plan.

Pernell Whitaker, Oscar De La Hoya.

Didn't beat Oscar...no matter how many different ways it get's argued by how many different people. Oscar beat himself by allowing that one to slip out of his fingers. Pernell. I hate it when people bring that one up because Pernell was not even a shade of himself when Tito handled that bout. Again...there’s no drama in it for me & I still don't see any viable competition in the match up whether it was then or now...then...but again...this is nothing more than Wacko’s humble opinion.

I don't think Tito's that effective as a middleweight...even though he did handle Joppy...who I rated back in his days. If he wasn't effective at middle...I just can't imagine him being anymore effective at light heavy...or whatever we'll be calling his catch weight.

The thing is though...if he wins...then I'll applaude him for it.

Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
I agree Tito is a bit 1 dimensional and he can't switch to a plan B. Thats why he was getting caught with the same basic combo from Wright all night, but Tito has beaten some good boxers, who went in there with a Plan A, Plan B.
Tito's just not that intelligent of a boxer. He's a fighter...plain & simple. He doesn't really box all that well unless he has established the upper hand. If he's boxed into a corner...you can see the deer actually start batting it's eyelids in front of the headlights...just prior to getting struck.

I blame a lot of this on his father. I think that he's a terrible fit as a trainer & that, far to often, he's let his son drive down many a one way street into a semi or cement truck...head on, so to speak.

He never tells him the truth & it often hurts Tito.

Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
First off…Factor #1: Weight. Both hitters will battle at an agreed catch weight of 170lbs. This could factor in to a loss to either…but I doubt that it favors Tito more than Jones as far as a win goes. I think that the extra weight added to Tito…it’ll hurt him more than the small amount of weight that Jones will have to drop.

Totally agree i would love to see how Tito does perform at Light Heavyweight, and see if his power is still there at Light Heavyweight, he showed power at Middleweight against decent opponent's like Mayorga, Joppy, but against the elite fighters like Wright, Hopkins, his power was not even a factor in the fight.
Mayorga is a joke. Always has been & always will be. When he has an opportunity to shine...he blows it with stupidity. I hate that.

Joppy is the exception to the rule when Tito is concerned. Joppy was a pretty sturdy combatant back in his time & Tito just owned him. Very impressive win.

Wright, Hopkins, & Oscar all made Trinidad look silly & totally confused...I look for Roy to do the very same.
Didn't beat Oscar...no matter how many different ways it get's argued by how many different people.

Of course he beat him who else beat him ?? the ref ?? Tito made Oscar run all night, Oscar knew the danger and Tito forced him to run all night along eventually Oscar got tired from all the running, and Tito took advantage and won the later rounds, if Oscar would of stood toe to toe he would of got KO, he knew it so did everyone else thats why he had to use his legs and keep on the move, your not giving Tito enough credit for that win.

Pernell. I hate it when people bring that one up because Pernell was not even a shade of himself when Tito handled that bout.

I know Pernell wasn't in his prime, but he was still good respected name at the time. Tito is the only boxer who has beaten Whitaker without controversy. Yes Whitaker wasn't in his prime but Tito still deserves credit for the win.

I don't think Tito's that effective as a middleweight...even though he did handle Joppy...who I rated back in his days. If he wasn't effective at middle...I just can't imagine him being anymore effective at light heavy...or whatever we'll be calling his catch weight.

I think it was more to do with Tito not being able to fight his fight, and not being able to use his power against Wright, Hopkins. Because of how well they boxed with there great technical skills. Jones is nowhere near as good technically, even though im a big Jones fan lets get real he basically used athletic ability. But now that has gone there is always a chance Tito could catch him.

Tito's just not that intelligent of a boxer. He's a fighter...plain & simple. He doesn't really box all that well unless he has established the upper hand. If he's boxed into a corner...you can see the deer actually start batting it's eyelids in front of the headlights...just prior to getting struck.

I disagree with that slightly, Tito has comeback when he has been behind like in Oscar, Reid, fights. But i do agree with your other comments, Tito has no Plan B he can't adjust and thats why he got dominated against Wright, Hopkins.

I blame a lot of this on his father. I think that he's a terrible fit as a trainer & that, far to often, he's let his son drive down many a one way street into a semi or cement truck...head on, so to speak.

Agreed didn't he say that Tito was winning the Hopkins fight