Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
....Marciano never lost.....you can't tell me he has no claim to being "The Greatest of All-Time"......he's THE ONLY HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION TO GO UNDEFEATED AND RETIRE UNDEFEATED WITH THE TITLE....Ali didn't do that and he wouldn't have done it had he not been suspended either.

If you don't consider how difficult winning 49 fights in a row without even a draw when you decide on who the greatest heavyweight of all time is, then I am sorry smashcrush, you're not looking at the whole picture....I'm not talking STYLES or SIZES of fighters I'm talking GREATNESS and Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis are statistically better fighters than Ali

Joe Louis 69 (55 KO)-3-0

Rocky Marciano 49 (43 KO)-0-0

Muhammed Ali 56 (37 KO)-5-1
I'm talking about greatness too , and the majority of boxing historians (who've spent more time on the subject than you and I combined) agree that Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time. The mere fact that Marciano is in fact the only heavyweight to retire undefeated and someone else is more widely recognized as being the greatest is a testament to how laughable Rocky's competition (and entire era) actually was. And putting Joe Louis into your argument doesn't do much to help your case either, considering the term 'bum' as far as boxing related was coined due to his choice of opposition, hence, the 'bum of the month club.'

Ali is the greatest, deal with it