Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs In 'Nawlins
Call me a skeptic but I am always a little weary of a perfect unblimished record.Might sound odd but Facing the ultimate adversity via Defeat can tell you alot about there fortitude and character.Not to say that Undefeated's have not faced adversity,You can look into ANY undefeated record and find bumps in the road,be they draws,bad descisions,technical win's etc.
I really dont think you fully know about a fighter or "what" might have been until they are forced to deal with a lose or some serious threats.Did they fight through bad cuts,Climb off the mat from knockdown,gut out a war only to win by a point?Or were they just good to avoid it?You cant fault them for that either.
IMo,Records as a whole are overrated.Its a case by case process.Its not how many losses or wins you have,Its the how you arrived there.Adversity builds character.
Yep, and this is one reason I like that warrior mentality. Look at Pavlik when JT put him down. People want to say JT lost that fight in the second round. I don't see it that way. Pavlik immediately jumped up and not only withstood the fire, but didn't run and hide the rest of the round, he went right back into JT and basically said, here I am do your best. JT didn't lose the fight in that round; Pavlik won the fight in that round. That is what it is all about IMO.

And though I hate to discredit Duran for his "No Mas" fiasco, I could never understand how a guy that had been to hell and back could just give up and say he didn't want it anymore like that. As great as Duran was, I always remember that about him before anything else. That always puzzled me