Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Ok Rains i will give my two cents right now without being biased on how Marquez can beat Pacquiao. First off he needs to move clockwise thats the basic's when fighting a southpaw. Thats what i learned in the gym that way he can stay away from Pacquiao's best weapon the left hand. Another thing when fighting a southpaw is that a straight right hand is the best weapon fighting against a southpaw, some experts may argue its the left hook but from footage i've seen, plus when i have been sparring with southpaws the best weapon is the straight right hand. Now if you look at Pacquiao vs Marquez you will see that Marquez staggered Pacquiao with straight right hands quite a few times. Thats one of the keys for Marquez the straight right hand.

Now another key for Marquez is timing, now the old saying is that timing beats speed and that is correct. Now Pacquiao does have a lot of head movement but if you are really concentrating on your opponent you can counter them as there coming in. And thats basically what Marquez needs to do, he needs to watch Pacquiao's shoulder's etc, time the feint take one step back and counter him with a jab, right hand, right down the pipe. Also one of the best ways to offset a fighters rhythm is the jab. Marquez has a pretty decent jab he needs to throw it at least 30 times to offset Pacquiao's rhythm and that stops your opponent getting anything off. And because Pacquiao is a highly aggressive fighter the jab will be a very good weapon for Marquez to use.

Another little fact when fighting a Southpaw is you need to keep your lead leg outside of the southpaw’s lead leg, that way you are forcing him to move to your right *his left* which is against his natural power. And it also opens the Southpaw up to right hand leads and left hooks which are the two best punches to use against a southpaw, which Marquez uses very well.

One last thing is that you don't need to come forward against Pacquiao, you just need to pick your shots and choose when and when not to be aggressive just to get enough respect from Pacquiao.

Much better, another thing that pacs oppenent fail to consistently do is to go to his body. I barely see anyone hit pac to the body. IMO JMM needs to put enough damage to pacs body to slow him down to avoid pac dominating later on with his speed,stamina and power. The counter ability of JMM is already there what he needs to do is focus on the basic or the little things just like you said his position keeping himself at the ring angle so pac can't get off his punches at a dangerous range. Now this is what I was hoping for a quality debate, not a bunch of played out opinions over and over again. Anyways, if you watch footage of pac especially in the marco rematch. You can see where he puts himself infront of his oppenent. There are times when pac dodges out of range then quickly goes right back to where he is at an angle where he feels he can get his shots off quick and hard. People never pay attention to details now a days, they just go on bias thoughts to lead them to bias conclusion. Another thing that pac has improve on his cutting off the ring, again, many people believe pac is just an aggressive little brawler but he is a decieving fighter. (not to sound all braggy about my boy) but he does do little things that are never mention. Cutting of the ring is one of the best thing he does and pac is prolly one of the best fighter that can do that.

BAck to JMM, IMO JMM needs to rely on pac making mistakes then to rely on beating him to the punch cause pac is faster between the two. JMM needs to pick his shots wisely cause if not pac will not only land one but he'll get in atleast two. Another thing JMM needs to look at is the way pac rallies back when he is hit off balance or with any good shot. Ice you said pac has not made any major improvements but if you watch footage of him enough Im sure you'll understand his more of a complete fighter now. If you watch round 6 of the mab rematch, you can see that mab did have the abbility to hit pac cleanly cause yes pac is not a great defensive fighter BUT the problem with that is pacs ability to rally right back through his oppenents. Marco at times won the exchange but pac landed some bigger shots and it seem to be discouraging that pac is not that faze by marco winning the exchange. Whats worst is when pac actually wins the exchange cause he puts out an onslaught. This IMO is what JMM should not rely on, he should not rely on winning exchanges cause it is a lose lose situation against pac. Like i said, pac at times lose the exchanges but he discourage his oppenents simply because he shows no sign of slowing down and when he does win the exchange well its obvious that does damage. Like me and you Ice, JMM IMO does need to rely on timing he needs to take advantage of when pac is either off balance or squaring up wildly. When Pac squares off, its either he takes it or he dishes out damage. Again JMM should not rely one exchanging, he should put one or two clean shot on pac then move. Do not let more then two second go by without moving out of the way. This way he hit pac without pac being able to rally back cause he had already gotten out of range away from pac. NOt necessary stick and move but just take advantage of pacs mistakes to make him look bad. There are still a lot of factors though.