Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006
I was thinking about the RJJ-Tito fight and generally the public is viewing it as two washed up fighters fighting for a paycheck. But then I started thinking, Tito isn't washed up. Honestly, the guy is about to turn 35, so he's not really all that old like RJJ, Tarver, B-Hop and some of these other dinosaurs. He's got 42 wins and only lost twice and both losses were essentially to the same type of very crafty, tricky, veteran type boxers (B-Hop and Winky), who just simply were smarter than him and had a better gameplan. Then other people are saying that he won't have any power at 170, but he's got a big frame and he was still knocking people out at 160. Until I see Tito in the RJJ fight, I'm not so sure he's washed up just yet. Who knows? Maybe he can start a little career revival for a year or two if he wins.
I'm one of the biggest Trinidad supporters on this forum and I still can see where they are coming from when they say washed up. Basically they are using the term loosly as is often done when an elite fighter is no longer elite (despite the fact that they could probably still beat damn near anybody bellow class A).

The real problem with Tito is that he has been inactive for over 2 years and has only fough twice in over 5.

Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_shaw
Let's look at Tito's wins at middleweight:

William Joppy: the guy was white-washed by Jermain Taylor on all 3 scorecards, 154lbs fighters like Spinks and Ouma did not have that happen to them. Joppy was/is an average fighter. Not a great KO win. Joppy's only KO is to Tito but tito is the only person he has fought with REAL KO power.

Hacine Cherifi: WHO ?

Ricardo Mayorga: Mayorga wasn't a proper middleweight like Tito so this win counts for virtually nothing in this argument as it was just to blown-up welters.

So Tito's KO's meant nothing at 160. So how can he KO someone at 10lbs more. We've seen how 10lbs or even less can drain fighters power which would be disastorous for Felix. Tito's latest impressive win was against 'El Feroz' in 2000. 8 YEARS AGO. He's finished IMO.
Joppy was an established Middleweight champion who, with the exception of a later avenged loss to JCG, had held a title for just as long as Hopkins had at the time.

Cherifi, limited as he was, was a very tough fighter who had already fought at SMW.

I agree that Mayorga is a blown up Welter but he still had never even been hurt before that fight.