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    Default Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    These two need to fight so that the #1 contender spot is cemented. Everybody is yelling about how Mayweather needs to fight one of these two to prve that he's the best. But let's be serious, Cotto beat Mosley (who was the same age as Oscar when Floyd fought him, but the Cotto fans always seem to forget that when they're talking about "old Oscar Delahoya," nevermind the fact that Floyd jumped up in weight AGAIN for Oscar) and a Zab Judah that was dominated by Floyd Mayweather. Paul Williams gave an extremely over-rated Margarito (who has yet to beat a top fighter) a boxing lesson, and beat up on Matheysse.

    What needs to happen is this, while Mayweather is taking his much deserved vacation, let Williams and Cotto have another fight with some "C level," competition (Margarito, Cintron, etc.) in order to build up their names some more. Then towards the end of the year, they fight each other in what would probably be the biggest fight possible without having Floyd Mayweather Jr. in it. This of course would set the stage for a for a Mayweather vs. Cotto/Williams mega fight in late 2008 or early 2009.

    Of course, this probably won't happen because Bob Arum might not be so inclined to let another one of his cash cows in the ring with Paul Williams again. Remember when Arum first found out about Margarito fighting Williams instead of Cotto? Remember when he threatened to sue Margarito for that? Ahhh.... good times.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Williams-Cotto

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    I will love to see that fight but first Let's see Cotto vs Mayweather.

    LOL nice try frozen

    Or do you want for Floyd to study Cotto more? LOL

    I want Cotto to fight high profile fighters. Mosley( 1 down), Oscar, Floyd then after that's done let's see the fights with Margo(he was high profile but he lost to PW), Williams, Cintron etc.
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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    This would be a great fight, and the biggest test for either man.

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    Paul Williams needs this fight because it's good for his legacy, it's a big payday, it's an elite fighter, etc because he won't be able to make 147 much longer and that's where all the big fights are at.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

    Paul Williams needs this fight because it's good for his legacy, it's a big payday, it's an elite fighter, etc because he won't be able to make 147 much longer and that's where all the big fights are at.
    Yes you are right is the same way Cotto needs Floyd so he can establish a legacy
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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by Puya
    Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

    Paul Williams needs this fight because it's good for his legacy, it's a big payday, it's an elite fighter, etc because he won't be able to make 147 much longer and that's where all the big fights are at.
    Yes you are right is the same way Cotto needs Floyd so he can establish a legacy

    You don't think it would make for a better fight down the road with Mayweather if Cotto unified with Williams first? Perhaps you're worried that Williams would beat Cotto? Personally, I think that Cotto would beat Williams without any controversy, but if you look at the $$$ that Mayweather has made in his last couple fights then even the most die-hard Cotto fan would agree that he's gonna need to do something huge (Mosley was huge, one more mega fight would get him there, imo) if he's gonna come close to bringing the kind of money that a Mayweather fight commands.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    I would love to see this fight.
    I think Cotto's tallest opponent was Sammy Sparkman..
    I know that Sammy is no Williams but at least Cotto has beat up on some one much taller than him with a very large reach advantage too.

    I want to see Cotto fight Williams, Margarito, Clottey and Cintron in what ever order they might come.

    Also, I would love to see andre berto step up to cotto just for the fun of it. Arum was talking about having Cotto fight Alfonso Gomez. lol

    I would also love to see Malignaggi move up like he said he would to face Cotto again. That would be fun to watch because of all the shiet Paulie talked he would only get sparked again but in a worse fashion.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    I don't know if it's a must, but it should happen and I think it will. Then Floyd will fight the winner and retire. If PBF waits for these two fight, then fights the winner, he'll be able to ride off into the sunset without being questioned, except by extreme, illogical haters.

    Here is my prediction - Cotto and Williams fight, Cotto wins, fights Mayweather. Mayweather "retires" win or lose. After a loss to Cotto, Williams moves up spends a year or two 154, then jumps up to 160 and gets at least a share of that belt (although Andy Lee might have something to say about that). Kind of Like of like when Leonard beat Hearns, he moved up to dominate 154 en route to his showdown with Marvin. Then when Williams grabs a share of the MW title, Mayweather comes out of retirement making his last hurrah trying to grab one more division.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    . But let's be serious, Cotto beat Mosley (who was the same age as Oscar when Floyd fought him, but the Cotto fans always seem to forget that when they're talking a
    Actually Mosely was 2 years older almost exactly. Oscar was 34 and 3 months when he fought Floyd and Shane was 36 years and 2 months when he fought Cotto.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    . But let's be serious, Cotto beat Mosley (who was the same age as Oscar when Floyd fought him, but the Cotto fans always seem to forget that when they're talking a
    Actually Mosely was 2 years older almost exactly. Oscar was 34 and 3 months when he fought Floyd and Shane was 36 years and 2 months when he fought Cotto.

    Thanks.


    I guess that really does put an end to the whole "old man Delahoya," nonsense by the Cotto fans.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Hi guys firstable Happy New Year , yeap that fight with Paul W. i dont see it , the g one is d`laoya and then Floyd and i want let yu know guys Cotto is the best in that weight 147lb. more strong , more hard punch , and have diferenet strategy to how fight with his oponent , have in addition speed , hey man he got all the tools for fight Floyd and knock him , that is what Floyd have scare i bet yu that guys .

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    . But let's be serious, Cotto beat Mosley (who was the same age as Oscar when Floyd fought him, but the Cotto fans always seem to forget that when they're talking a
    Actually Mosely was 2 years older almost exactly. Oscar was 34 and 3 months when he fought Floyd and Shane was 36 years and 2 months when he fought Cotto.

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    I guess that really does put an end to the whole "old man Delahoya," nonsense by the Cotto fans.
    So? If Shane and Oscar got busy in 2008 against each other you would pick?
    I think you can throw the roids into this conversation. lol

    Just your thoughts though.

    I would like to see Shane/ODLH 3 in 2008 for the sake of argument but ODLH has to spread the wealth and give some one less fortunate a chance at the big money. Who knows, either one might throw the fight since they take showers together and all.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    . But let's be serious, Cotto beat Mosley (who was the same age as Oscar when Floyd fought him, but the Cotto fans always seem to forget that when they're talking a
    Actually Mosely was 2 years older almost exactly. Oscar was 34 and 3 months when he fought Floyd and Shane was 36 years and 2 months when he fought Cotto.

    Thanks.


    I guess that really does put an end to the whole "old man Delahoya," nonsense by the Cotto fans.
    So? If Shane and Oscar got busy in 2008 against each other you would pick?
    I think you can throw the roids into this conversation. lol

    Just your thoughts though.

    I would like to see Shane/ODLH 3 in 2008 for the sake of argument but ODLH has to spread the wealth and give some one less fortunate a chance at the big money. Who knows, either one might throw the fight since they take showers together and all.

    Tough call.

    I think that Oscar's days at 147 are/should be over. He's too big, and now seems to rely on power more than anything else.

    If it took place at 154, I'd probably go with Oscar. It would be great for 9-10 rounds, then Delahoya and Mosley would be so tired that they would just sit there and hold each other until it was over.

    Oscar SD, not without controversy though. Unless Shane starts doing steroids again, because that would give him that something extra that he needed to beat Oscar in the first place.



    But I should add that I don't think that Cotto beats Delahoya at 154

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.

    If I were Mayweather I would want Cotto v Williams to happen then fight the winner. If PBF beats Cotto then people will say he needs to fight Williams. If PBF beats Williams people would say he still needs to fight Cotto.

    Who ever wins would then have claim to beating 2 dangerous opponents i.e. Cotto (Moseley and Williams), Williams (Margarito and Cotto).

    Hopefully PBF v Cotto/Williams winner will be Dec 08.
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