Who is best now Kessler or Hopkins???

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You people are crazy. Hopkins would definitely UD Kessler. It would be ugly and boring, but it wouldn't be controversial.

Why is it crazy to think the younger fresher Kessler can win ?? he certainly has the tools to beat Hopkins.

He does not have the tools to beat Hopkins. That's completely ridiculous. Kessler is solid. He's not great. Hopkins, even at 43, is a top 10 p4p fighter on skill alone. Kessler is way too slow and plodding and would land next to nothing. (Hopkins would also land next to nothing, since he only throws about 100 punches a fight these days, but he would consistently land the cleaner shots -- Kessler is not hard to hit.) This thread is ridiculous. Do you people really think Calzaghe will have an easier time with Hopkins than he did with Kessler? I saw the Calzaghe-Kessler fight as an all-out domination....

He does not have the tools to beat Hopkins. That's completely ridiculous.

Kessler has a great jab, he is a superb technical boxer, he has a good variety of punches, etc. Taylor gave Hopkins hell with his jab so why is it so hard to believe Kessler can't beat Hopkins ?? by using his jab to good effect plus using the right tactics ??

Hopkins, even at 43, is a top 10 p4p fighter on skill alone. Kessler is way too slow and plodding and would land next to nothing.

Lets get one thing straight now Kessler is not slow at all he can throw fast combinations very well. Hopkins isn't exactly a speed demon himself. He only throws 15 punches a round, Kessler averages over 50+ punches a round. He also puts his punches together very well to say he would land next to nothing is ridiculous.

(Hopkins would also land next to nothing, since he only throws about 100 punches a fight these days, but he would consistently land the cleaner shots -- Kessler is not hard to hit.)

I think you mean 10 punches a round but whatever, so your telling me Hopkins can beat Kessler only throwing 10 punches a round ?? i don't think so somehow. Kessler would be pumping his jab at Hopkins all night no way on earth would Hopkins beat Kessler throwing 10 punches a round.

This thread is ridiculous. Do you people really think Calzaghe will have an easier time with Hopkins than he did with Kessler? I saw the Calzaghe-Kessler fight as an all-out domination....

I haven't said that at all im actually one of the people that thinks Hopkins vs Calzaghe will be a rough night for Calzaghe. Hopkins can offset Calzaghe's rhythm with clinches and dirty fighting. Having said that i don't think Hopkins will win, just based on the work rate alone it will be very tough for Hopkins to win.

I don't know why you think Kessler has no chance against Hopkins, Calzaghe vs Kessler was no domination at all i had Calzaghe winning by 3 rounds. The way Calzaghe beat Kessler was outworking him, plus using his southpaw jab. Hopkins rarely uses the jab, and really and truthfully he will never be able to out work Kessler. Hopkins can win the fight by using the right tactics i never said he couldn't, but i think its unfair to say Kessler hasn't got the tools to beat Hopkins when he clearly has IMO.

Ice Cold Boxing... Lovely stuff.


Sorry MAYWEATHER P4P #1, i kinda missed the point of your question....
I think its hard to answer your question as Hopkins last two fights were against guys who did not put on their best performance. (Plus Im quite happy to put it to you that Winky is pretty wasted at 170)
So im not entirely sure how to measure Hopkins up lately.

Also, if i say i think Kessler is far more Dangerous than Hopkins in 2008, im not Necessarily saying he's more of a threat to Calzaghe.