Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch
Maj, i have to agree with you on one thing. I think all boxers should try to keep Mayweather's name out of their mouths.

Mayweather IS the linear champ but its obvious that, at this stage of his career, he is a law unto himself, meaning he simply wont oblige run of the mill challenges (note; not challengers )

Besides, i have serious reservations on him
a) Fighting a top 5 Welter
or
b) Ever fighting again.

I just dont see him doing it against the big boys of the division.


I mean lets look at Mayweathers last 4 fights, the ones that supposedly ''showed why his legacy is ligit''

Judah, although is still IMO a world class operator, is not (actually never) winning key fights.

Baldomir is a tough fight for mentally frail, chinny or old shot fighter but will never achieve anything in his life except for beating Judah. Who as ive already said, losses key fights.

Dela Hoya The sports most decorated fighter and a garunteed life making paycheck. But lets be honset, Molsey beat him nearly 10 years ago and Cotto, Williams and Margarito would probably beat him now.... That could be up for serious debate but im ready

Hatton... Well, as much as it pains me to say this. If Hatton looked that small against Mayweather then im probably right in saying that the entire top 10 of the WW division would beat him.



Now on the face of things, these four fights look very very decent but really, Maywether has NOT faced the TOP guys at Welterweight. As a Welterweight himself. As the Worlds premier fighter. For whatever reason. That is the fact of the matter.
I know Cotto is yet to also... But you can bet your life he will.

P.S Judah wasn't Mayweathers 1st fight at Welter, it was Shamba Mitchell

Alright lets look at Cotto's last 4 fights

Mosley: A name fighter that you could place in a class with Oscar but he isnt the same Shane Mosley that he was those years ago and it was a close and tough fight for Cotto.

Judah: Floyd already had beaten him and Judah hadnt won a fight in a year, how he got that fight with Cotto I have no idea. Just someone that Floyd had already beaten and people want ot excuse that by saying it was "The way" that Cotto beat him, but point remains, Floyd already beat Judah in his second fight at Welterweight. And as you said he loses key fights.


Urkal: Urkal....I dont think I need to say anything here and Cotto seemed to be off his game that night.

Quintana: Who is carlos quintana? He only got that claim because he beat a prospect named Julio. But I felt that Quintana had no chance in that fight he was a small fish being thrown in with a shark.


And no one has answered the question I asked earlier

How many champs has Cotto beaten for the title?


People wanna downgrade Hatton and they say Collazo showed he couldnt hang there.

Well Floyd showed that Judah couldnt hang, and so did Baldomir before that.

So why do people defend Cotto from this kind of critisism? See what I'm getting at

And he fought Oscar for the belt in oscar's weight class.

And that in my opinion is more impressive then Cotto beating Mosley.

Think about it, Mayweather is a small welterweight, he went up to 154 and beat Oscar with Oscar's gloves, in oscar's ring at oscar's weight, and as devastating as oscar looked against mayorga a lot of people thought he would knock him out.

And yet when Floyd one they say "Oh oscar was past his prime and etc etc" Mayweather fighting Oscar was a bigger risk then Cotto fighting Mosley in mu opinion.

And at Mayweather's most recent fight against Hatton, Hatton the ring fighter of the year and the best fighter at 140 and Mayweather isnt as natural a 147 pounder as Cotto probably is by now.

Let me ask you this, when has Cotto fought the best of ANY weight class?

People act like the fight would have been different if Mayweather fought Hatton at 140 as if Mayweather was a natural welterweight anyway.

Cotto aint fought the best at 140 or even 147. Meanwhile Mayweather has beaten the best at 135 and people said he didnt beat the best at 140(cause he only beat Gatti before) but he beats Hatton, and people try to make an excuse and say Hatton aint a natural welterweight, neither is Mayweather.

Cotto hasnt beat the best in any weight class.

And I'll ask again.

What champ has Cotto ever beat for the Title? Who did he ever have to take the title from?

Like I said, Mayweather already made his legacy, and other fighters are trying to base theirs off of him, why not fight each other.

Mayweather has taken more risks in his last 4 fights then Cotto has

Now I await your response.