People stop saying Floyd would beat Tito

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Tito was getting outboxed by Oscar for the majority of their fight at 154. Mayweather is a much better boxer at 147 than Oscar at 154. The biggest difference is that Mayweather brings it for 12 full rounds while getting better with each passing round, while Oscar always fades down the stretch.

Mayweather would box Tito's ears off at 147 en-route to a wide UD.

Frozen, that fight was at 147. And that was Prime Undefeated Oscar at his best. I would've loved to have seen how Mayweather could've handled that Oscar given that he could barely handle him when they fought 8 YEARS AFTER. Even then, Oscar did not dominate Tito and Tito kept it close enough to pull of the W in the end. Also, Oscar was not known for stamina issues back then. He was known for rallying at the end. see Carr and Quartey fights. It was Tito that made him fight that way, it was Tito that made him back off at the end. Give the man some credit.

Now your just being biased, Mayweather handled Oscar much easier than Tito ever did. And lets not forget Mayweather fought Oscar way above his best weight class and Mayweather is about x2 better at Super Featherweight and Lightweight. I had Mayweather winning the Oscar De La Hoya fight clearly by 3 or 4 rounds plus Oscar De La Hoya only landed 21 percent of his punches, and Mayweather landed 43 percent of his punches, where as Oscar De La Hoya landed 41 percent of his punches vs Felix Trinidad, and Tito only landed 25 percent of his punches.

If Mayweather would have fought Oscar De La Hoya at Lightweight. Mayweather would have beaten Oscar De La Hoya by near enough the same scores as he did at Light Middleweight.

You are putting way too much into what I said. I never meant to imply Tito handled DLH better than Mayweather did. I'm simply stating that the DLH that Tito fought was much better than the DLH Mayweather fought. It was a prime, undefeated DLH. The reason I say that is because everyone likes to point out Tito-DLH and say see if DLH did that than Mayweather could do it better. Well I don't see how we can all come to the conclusion that Mayweather now at welterweight is any better than prime DLH at welterweight. Not to mention that Mayweather is smaller and does not have the power of DLH.

And why are you talking about DLH - Mayweather at Lightweight. What does that have to do with this discussion. But now that you mention it, you should be fair about it and remember that DLH was much better at Lightweight too.

You tried to put Mayweather down by saying he barely beat Oscar De La Hoya 8 years after the Tito fight when thats total nonsense. Mayweather handled Oscar De La Hoya superbly well considering Oscar De La Hoya was almost a stone heavier than Mayweather was, plus the fight isn't as close as it seems. If you watch the fight carefully its a clear cut victory for Mayweather by at least 3 or 4 rounds, Oscar De La Hoya flurries looked good but they were flash and they were hardly landing. Mayweather out boxed Oscar De La Hoya clearly and made him only land 21 percent of his punches which is incredible. Plus you also forget that some of Oscar De La Hoya's finest performances were at Light Middleweight, he wasn't as shot as people make out. His fights with Hopkins, Sturm, were at a weight class Oscar De La Hoya was not comfortable at and you could see by his physique that he wasn't comfortable at the weight. His performance against Mayorga was pretty good, in fact Oscar De La Hoya in his fights with Mayorga, Mayweather, that was the best Oscar De La Hoya i had seen in years.

Oscar De La Hoya was better at lighter weights as well i agree, but Mayweather was something else especially at Super Featherweight where he looked pretty much unbeatable.

Good enough points, but the statement that started this whole side topic was the Jones was a greater fighter than Floyd will every be. It was probably a reactionary statement on my part to say that Floyd has eclipsed Jones already, but it's a good debate, they are comparable ATG's, and Hulk is dead wrong to think Jones is on a significantly higher level than Mayweather. We can break down the relative strength of opposition, but you can't belittle Floyds accomplishments just because you hate him.

Oh i agree in fact i think Mayweather technical wise is way better than Roy Jones, but i also think Jones is more naturally talented than Mayweather. Opposition/Achievement wise i would say it is pretty close.

Mayweather has won 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes, something only about 6 boxers have ever done. And Jones won the Heavyweight title something that hadn't been done since early 1900s. Both fighters have dominated mostly every opponent they have faced. And also both boxers have been criticized for facing over matched opponent's.

Mayweather's Best Wins

Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah
Genaro Hernandez
Oscar De La Hoya
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Jesus Chavez
Angel Manfredy
Phillip N'dou
Carlos Hernandez

Goodish Wins

DeMarcus Corley
Carlos Manuel Baldomir
Sharmba Mitchell
Victoriano Sosa

World titles at Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Light Middleweight.

Jones Best Wins

Mike McCallum = Old but still good.
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Virgil Hill
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
Eric Harding
Reggie Johnson
Montel Griffin
Vinny Pazienza
Clinton Woods

Goodish Wins

Thulani Malinga
Thomas Tate
Merqui Sosa
Lou Del Valle

World Titles at Middleweight, Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight, Heavyweight.