Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Quote Originally Posted by Munky
I'm not saying he doesn't have good wrestling skills but to say he has good submission holds is crazy. He has good WWE pantomime submissions. Whacking a sub on a fully resisting 200lb opponent in an MMA match whilst trying to fend off punches to the face is somewhat a different matter.
Angle does have good submission holds, he knows a good variety of them. And if he would of gone in MMA he would of got even better at submission holds. Just because WWE is fake it doesn't mean Angle isn't good at submission holds when he is. Im not saying he is in the league of some of the best submission specialists in MMA, but he still had a good variety of submission skills.
Sorry ICB but how do you conclude Kurt has good submissions? Good submissions to me is applying them to good effect on a fully resisting opponent. Just knowing what they are and how to lock them onto someone who is compliant (despite knowing the technicalities of that sub) is not good submissions to me. WWE is acted out.

I could teach one of the 120lb analyst where i work an RNC or an ude garami and he would be able to apply it to a compliant opponent. Applying to a resisting opponent he would not.

WWE subs and real subs are totally totally different.

I appreciate he may know how to do them and trains them in WWE but having the ability to make them work in a real match is like comparing chalk to cheese.