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    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: Who's gonna be President?

    KL you obviously have a hard time being subjective about politics, you don't even try to see the good and bad in even ONE Republican candidate....you call McCain an "old bastard", you call the conservative Christians "the taliban", and you call Romney an "infidel"


    Let me break the race down for you subjectively in a calm clear way which describes the good assets of the GOP candidates and also their negatives....and I'll cover every last one of them....I'll even cover the Democrats without resorting to name calling and being childish and hopefully you'll return the favor and actually think about what I wrote and not be a bigot.

    GOP

    John McCain - PROS: He's the "maverick" of the party, he's a fighter, he served his country honorably and uses real life experience with his views on the War in Iraq and torture. He is very active in Congress and authors legislation (most congressmen just vote, McCain writes out Bills), and he's not afraid to work WITH Democrats (Ted Kennedy, Russel Feingold). CONS: the McCain-Kennedy "Amnesty Bill" didn't serve him well with the Republican base, he's older, and he's the "maverick" and he's willing to work with Democrats....while appealing to parts of the GOP and Independents it annoys the "base"

    Mike Huckabee - PROS: believes in "verticle politics" (no left and right only UP or DOWN, a great way to think and I figured you KL would like him), 10 years as Governor the most Executive experience in the race, he ran a Democratic state as a Republican for 10 years, he's able to work with Democrats, he's got a good grasp on what the masses want, (he's basically the Republican John Edwards) he connects with the everyday working man and family and he's a "Washington outsider" which is codeword for he doesn't follow the Party on every single issue. CONS: not everyone knows him, he's easily pegged by the media and liberals as a crazy Southern Baptist (which he's really not, religion shouldn't factor in so much to how he's viewed), not everyone is sold on the fact that he's a Republican ie he has some qualities that don't fit the bill, like raising taxes for education and the support of the NEA as well as letting some criminals get pardoned

    Mitt Romney - PROS: He's been elected in the BLUEST state of them all (Massachusetts) as a Republican, he has had success running companies as well as running a state (an Executive position, which means experience), He's from the northeast (a GOP trouble area, they need those states in order to win a National Election), he has experience of Presidential races, his father George Romney ran for President in 1964 (and the fact that George Romney was mormon never factored into the election and right now it's kind of a issue the media drummed up, nothing serious). CONS: he's a new convert to Pro-Life (not a big deal in my book but a HUGE deal for the "base"), he's from a super liberal state, he's flip flopped as you said which the Republicans don't appreciate.

    Rudy Guliani - PROS: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 he's all about getting the terrorists and a "Strong America" and yeah the base digs that, CONS: he's been married 3 times, he's anti-gun and pro-choice, and he's kind of shady....all bad things

    Fred Thompson - PROS: He's an actor and Ronald Reagan was an actor....that's all there is for him, other than that CONS: he's just a tired old man who doesn't want to campaign

    Ron Paul - PROS: he's an isolationist (which sounds good but is really naive), he's the farther right maverick when compared to McCain CONS: his followers are assholes and he gets good ideas across in a manner which makes him seem crazy


    Democrats

    Hillary Clinton - she's got experience (I don't know about 35 years worth, which is what she claims but she has experience) and someone to ask for help. The bad news is she reminds the other side of the Clinton era and they absolutely despise her, she has the highest negatives of any candidate.....that means people are just as likely to show up and vote AGAINST her as they are to show up to vote FOR someone.

    Barrack Obama - He's young, charasmatic, full of energy, and he's got a very short history of politics (which means little dirt to dig up on him). No one can argue with the crowds he draws...he's the new John F. Kennedy....it will still be difficult for him in a National Election but the Democratic Primaries are his to lose right now.

    John Edwards - he's a populist candidate, he's got a lot of Bill Clinton in him, he's out there working for the little guy and he's finding lots of support. However he was a HORRIBLE Senator for North Carolina he was hardly present at meetings and never drew up any legislation whiched earned him the nickname "Senator Who" in North Carolina.......he also has a mansion in North Carolina.....one that raised the price of land in his neighborhood and this eventually forced his neighbor to move.....not too good for the "people's candidate".

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    KL you obviously have a hard time being subjective about politics, you don't even try to see the good and bad in even ONE Republican candidate....you call McCain an "old bastard", you call the conservative Christians "the taliban", and you call Romney an "infidel"


    Let me break the race down for you subjectively in a calm clear way which describes the good assets of the GOP candidates and also their negatives....and I'll cover every last one of them....I'll even cover the Democrats without resorting to name calling and being childish and hopefully you'll return the favor and actually think about what I wrote and not be a bigot.

    GOP

    John McCain - PROS: He's the "maverick" of the party, he's a fighter, he served his country honorably and uses real life experience with his views on the War in Iraq and torture. He is very active in Congress and authors legislation (most congressmen just vote, McCain writes out Bills), and he's not afraid to work WITH Democrats (Ted Kennedy, Russel Feingold). CONS: the McCain-Kennedy "Amnesty Bill" didn't serve him well with the Republican base, he's older, and he's the "maverick" and he's willing to work with Democrats....while appealing to parts of the GOP and Independents it annoys the "base"

    Mike Huckabee - PROS: believes in "verticle politics" (no left and right only UP or DOWN, a great way to think and I figured you KL would like him), 10 years as Governor the most Executive experience in the race, he ran a Democratic state as a Republican for 10 years, he's able to work with Democrats, he's got a good grasp on what the masses want, (he's basically the Republican John Edwards) he connects with the everyday working man and family and he's a "Washington outsider" which is codeword for he doesn't follow the Party on every single issue. CONS: not everyone knows him, he's easily pegged by the media and liberals as a crazy Southern Baptist (which he's really not, religion shouldn't factor in so much to how he's viewed), not everyone is sold on the fact that he's a Republican ie he has some qualities that don't fit the bill, like raising taxes for education and the support of the NEA as well as letting some criminals get pardoned

    Mitt Romney - PROS: He's been elected in the BLUEST state of them all (Massachusetts) as a Republican, he has had success running companies as well as running a state (an Executive position, which means experience), He's from the northeast (a GOP trouble area, they need those states in order to win a National Election), he has experience of Presidential races, his father George Romney ran for President in 1964 (and the fact that George Romney was mormon never factored into the election and right now it's kind of a issue the media drummed up, nothing serious). CONS: he's a new convert to Pro-Life (not a big deal in my book but a HUGE deal for the "base"), he's from a super liberal state, he's flip flopped as you said which the Republicans don't appreciate.

    Rudy Guliani - PROS: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 he's all about getting the terrorists and a "Strong America" and yeah the base digs that, CONS: he's been married 3 times, he's anti-gun and pro-choice, and he's kind of shady....all bad things

    Fred Thompson - PROS: He's an actor and Ronald Reagan was an actor....that's all there is for him, other than that CONS: he's just a tired old man who doesn't want to campaign

    Ron Paul - PROS: he's an isolationist (which sounds good but is really naive), he's the farther right maverick when compared to McCain CONS: his followers are assholes and he gets good ideas across in a manner which makes him seem crazy


    Democrats

    Hillary Clinton - she's got experience (I don't know about 35 years worth, which is what she claims but she has experience) and someone to ask for help. The bad news is she reminds the other side of the Clinton era and they absolutely despise her, she has the highest negatives of any candidate.....that means people are just as likely to show up and vote AGAINST her as they are to show up to vote FOR someone.

    Barrack Obama - He's young, charasmatic, full of energy, and he's got a very short history of politics (which means little dirt to dig up on him). No one can argue with the crowds he draws...he's the new John F. Kennedy....it will still be difficult for him in a National Election but the Democratic Primaries are his to lose right now.

    John Edwards - he's a populist candidate, he's got a lot of Bill Clinton in him, he's out there working for the little guy and he's finding lots of support. However he was a HORRIBLE Senator for North Carolina he was hardly present at meetings and never drew up any legislation whiched earned him the nickname "Senator Who" in North Carolina.......he also has a mansion in North Carolina.....one that raised the price of land in his neighborhood and this eventually forced his neighbor to move.....not too good for the "people's candidate".
    Damn good post. Who wrote this? LMAO!
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: Who's gonna be President?

    I'm going with Scott Walker for 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
    I'm going with Scott Walker for 2016.
    It's interesting how governors who can or do win the potus, do it without support from the state that elected them.
    Walker is no exception.
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