Quote Originally Posted by Pantera
Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
If Banks comes in confident I believe he could even win this. I've never rated Miranda at all. I picked him all along to get fucked up big time by Kelly Pavlik, I was amazed how he started favourite for that fight. I also thought Allan Green would have knocked him out and maybe without his colon troubles he would have.

He was hailed for his performance against King Arthur and I just didn't get that. Any decent fighter who sees their opponents jaw hanging off their face after 5 rounds and still doesn't force a stoppage clearly has limited boxing ability. He's just a slugger.

I just don't rate Miranda as anything beyond a big punch. He'll probably beat Banks, as I expect Banks will have that deer in the headlights look about him come fight night but Miranda, like Jeff Lacy is one of those fighters whose aura has been shot to pieces and they will never be a force again.

Miranda is going to be a highlight reel KO for the next batch of prospects coming through.

If Banks comes close to winning this fight I will throw in the Pantera towel for good.
I completely disagree with almost everything you say. Miranda beat Abraham, if not for the protection from the ref he would have stopped him. In that fight Tyson would not have been able to finish the job. Allan may not have been 100%, but Edison dominated that fight and boxed Allan's ears off. At 100% there would be little difference. Edison came down from 210 to 160 in 6 weeks to make the Pavlik fight. He too was far from 100%, and even if he was I dunno if he coulda stopped Pavlik. But I think at 168lbs, a much better weight for him, he will carry his power and be more dangerous.

I respect your opinion, and we will continue to disagree until he proves one of us wrong. I am still a believer.
Miranda was lucky he didn't get DQ in the Abraham fight, his fouling was a disgrace. I think Miranda did beat the stuffing out of Abraham and would of won without the point deductions. But i actually think Miranda was lucky he was allowed to even carry on i wouldn't say the ref was protecting Abraham. As for the Green fight i wasn't impressed with Miranda or Green especially Green though, because Green kept running and he showed no desire to win plus he kept looking at his shoes what the hell was that all about ?? even when Green dropped Miranda he showed no fire or any desire to even try and finish off Miranda.

Miranda has never been that good IMO, he is very limited and was exposed in the Pavlik fight that he couldn't fight on the back foot. Im not saying Miranda is a bad fighter, but he has no real boxing skills and his defense is very sloppy.