of course hes an all time great. Like you say perhaps not the greatest but without a doubt to be lower then top 15 in anyones list would be a HUGE injustice to him. Historians say he was by far the most conditioned HW of all time....sheer determination, heart and will to win make the guy a legend anyways...put that along with a HUGE punch a granite chin and a unbeaten record you have to say hes an all time great no doubt.