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I agree you don't need a title to be the real champ, I don't even recognize any of the alphabet groups, but at the time if the championship is vacant which it was when Spinks left for the heavyweight ranks then by unifying all 3 belts you became recognized as champion of the division. Dariusz only unified 2 parts, Jones got all 3. You can say what you want about the stripping but that is the way it happened.
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IMO Erdei is not the linear champ! Dariusz only unified two portions of the title & then planned to move to cruiser (which is about the time he was stripped, he later changed his mind). It was considered that to be the undisputed champion you have to unify all 3 belts just like Pernell Whitaker did at 135.
Not the ole' Dariusz stripping titles again what they did to him was wrong theres no other way about it.

I totally agree that he was stripped unfairly, he had to defend in 30 days for one organisation & the other stripped him cause he showed their belt with his original one. That's just another reason why I don't pay much attention to the alphabet idiots.

But my point is still Michalczewski only unified two thirds, whilst Jones unified all 3 making him the undisputed champion & following that line Hopkins is now the linear champ!
Being Undisputed Champion does not equal being Lineal Champion... Like has been said before, you don't even need to have a title to be Lineal Champion.

Is it Lineal or is it Linear... I am so confused...
I agree you don't need a title to be the real champ, I don't even recognize any of the alphabet groups, but at the time if the championship is vacant which it was when Spinks left for the heavyweight ranks then by unifying all 3 belts you became recognized as champion of the division. Dariusz only unified 2 parts, Jones got all 3. You can say what you want about the stripping but that is the way it happened.
Galaxy then you should also note that what you are saying is according to you and not the way it is.
Because the way it is, is different. You consider Jones the Lineal champ because he unified 3 belts and that's fine since it's according to you but the truth is different from that.
Hill became Lineal after beating Maske, Dariusz beat Hill, Julio beat Dariusz and Erdei beat Julio.
That's the way it is now wether you agree with it or not is a whole nother story.

Take for example the Lighweight division there hasn't been a Lineal champ since Pernell Whittaker.
Why?
Diaz has captured WBA, WBC & IBF titles yet Casamayor is the Ring Champ but no Lineal champ in that Div.
It's not about titles or the Ring belt it's more of who beats whom and if the titles are vacated once a fighter faces the best in this case I'm assuming the Lineal champ would be determined IF and when Diaz fights Casamayor.
Sorry Mick but can you tell why you think Hill/ Maske was for the linear title? Cause it don't qualify in my books. When Spinks left the championship was vacant.

What your saying there is once a fighter faces the best but Jones was there at the time to so how can the Hill/ Maske fight be for the linear title?

You use Whitaker but that is exactly my point he became recognized champion after unifying all three belts, just like Holyfield did!