People stop saying Floyd would beat Tito

[donnydarkoIRL]

Cockney me train of thought precisely.

I must contrast Muhammad Ali with Roy Jones to further my point.
Both had amazing physical ability and unparalelled reflexes and speed.

However as the physical skills faded, they went two very different ways. Ali who had learned his craft and developed his boxing brain went on (i'm speaking after his layoff) tyo have his most glorious wins and did so through skill rather than power.

Once his speed and reflexes left him Roy was Ko'ed and he is now desperately trying to develop some skills to help him through the remainder of his career.

So would you agree with people who are worried about RJJ actually beating Tito and getting back in the ring with a genuine world champ who could cause him some serious damage?

I agree that some fighters can lean on the skills better than others, and I'm not convinced that everyone can overcome the loss of speed and reflexes. Whether RJJ still has it in him to learn those, we'll see over the coming year.

Yes I would.

Roy was never taught much skill, even in the amateur he could never be descrobed as a textbook fighter, because he never learned the textbook.

At this advanced stage he's trying to bone up and learn the lessons he should have started with and put in two decent performances, but RJJ disposed of those wonderful abilities is a mediocre fighter, not even reaching the level of "good"

Well, if Roy does win against Tito, and manages to get some sort of shot at a light heavyweight belt, are there any champions at the minute it would be fairly safe to put him in with? Clinton Woods maybe?

He'd be "safe" with woods, but to be honest he'd be safe with Hopkins too. Neither of those two are possessed of any dangerous power. However, I feel the real danger is to his legacy. The longer this past prime Jones lingers in the sport the more people are given to judge on. Every further fight he takes gives his detractors another fight with which they can raise the case "Without his skills he's not upto much"

An IMO Chad Dawson would KO him now.