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That's an AWESOME link buddy! Grabbing the first one now, first time my rapidshare account has ever been used for something other than porn

Always great when you meet someone with similar diverse interests on here, I've had plenty a discourse with Sharla and Andre and it's nice to meet people who know a great deal about subjects that most people arn't interested in.

My car is going in for MOT this morning so hopefully when I get back the first DVD will have downloaded.

I've see a bit of Graham Hancock and obviously know the titles of his books but I've never read any so this will be great. I know he's not recognised by 'proper' anthropologists and historians but there's certainly more than meets the eye when it comes the ancient world imo.

Another guy I find interesting whose work is taken seriously by the mainstream is David M Rohl, the Egyptologist. I especially like his work because, as a fan of biblical history Rohl is one of the few secular (I think he is anyway) scholars who dates the Exodus from Egypt as 1440 BC as opposed to the 1200's BC's that most Egyptologists adhere to. This new chronology is absolute dynamite imo as it completely harmonises the Bible with the records of ancient Egypt.

The princess who pulled Moses out of the river would have been none other than Hathuspet herself and the Egyptian Pharoah Akhenaten would have been the Pharoh who drove Moses out of Egpyt. His denouncement of the Egyptian Gods and the installation of worship of Aten the Sun God, going against centuries of Egyptian history then makes perfect sense in that context.


Can't wait to watch these, thanks a lot.
Glad your excited about these! They are really well made documentaries, and Graham Hancock wrote and narrated them, and he is so passionate about his research that you can't help getting completely wrapped up in it as well.

I'm probably not as knowledgable as some, but every peice of knowledge I come across just gets absorbed like a spounge and I want more.... Once you see or hear that first thing that puzzles you and you just think "what the f'k, i don't know what to do with that information" your just hooked.

As you havn't read any of Graham Hancock's books, i've used the upload function of my rapidshare account for the first time and uploaded a copy of one of his best books...


http://rapidshare.com/files/83962126/FOTG.rar.html

It's not quite porn, but it almost gives me a boner it's so insane.

I only recently got it, so i've only got through one chapter to see what it's like, and it totally blew my mind...

The first chapter discusses a map that an explorer had in the 15 century that detailed Antarctica's coasts and mountains. Except the last time this land was NOT under ice, was over 10,000 years ago.. and has only recently been mapped again through modern seizmic type technology. To complete such a map, these people would have had to of been able to sail, measure latitude and longitude (which modern humans only got sorted 70 or 80 years ago), had a very detailed knowledge of the stars, and been intelligent enough to complete all this... Conventional scientists on the other hand, will not even admit that people MIGHHHHT have even EXISTED 10,000 years ago... Let alone been capable of anything like mapping out a continent. DId I say this stuff blows my mind?
This 1st chapter is surely setting the scene for the HUGE unexplained history that we have, that conventional historians want to ignore,,,,, but Graham Hancock sets out to explore and try to explain it..


Everyone should download and have a read of the first chapter... Either you'll be bored shitless, or it'll blow your freakin mind and you'll be hooked and have to know everything... I'm sure it'll be the latter..

I absolutely positive you'll love it Bilbo..

Anyway, let me know what you think of the DVD's or the book whenever you get a chance.... I tried in vain to get my girlfriend to have any interest at all in it, So i'm up for any discussion on such topics on here!
Hey Dizaster, I am somewhat aquainted with the map you mentioned. It's called the Peri Reis map or something like that and was drawn by I believe an Italian seafarer/map maker drawing on other more ancient documents.

I know critics have tried to say that it doesn't show Antartica at all but rather South America in the wrong position, but then others say the geography is exactly correct for how Antartica would look like without the ice.

I'm actually a Biblical believer, although not a practising Christian, I do believe the old Biblical accounts.

That's why I find the ancient pyramid civilisations so interesting. It's certainly no coincidence in my mind that all at the same time in history civilisations pop in South America, Egypt, Babylon etc all with the same form of pyramid buildings of worship, heavily aligned with the stars, the same priests and rituals and most significantly the idea of needing to sacrifice in order to appease the Gods.

It's interesting that only in the Bible is the reasons behind sacrifical rites and worship explained, and only within that context do such rituals make sense.

According to the Bible when the tower of Babel was built and God confounded every body by giving them different languages, the people split into groups based on the language they were given and moved away from each other. However they all retained the same memory of sacrificial worship, the pyramid style towers, the priests, the astrology etc and when they reached their new lands they began their form of worhsip as before.

As extraodinary as this sounds it's the ONLY explanation for how these people came to share the same religious ideas, even to the point of serpent worship.

The idea of sacrifce was initiated after the fall of man with Cain and Abel. God then made it an 'official' requirement following the flood of Noah's day when he had him sacrifice a huge amount of animals. This sacrificial rite continued with Abraham being told to sacrifice his son (God showing a shadow of what He was going to do with his Son Jesus Christ) and then became the legal requirement for any man who wished to approach God.

The idea was that man was seperated from God due to his sin and in order for the two to be reconciled blood must be shed, ie. the sinner must pay for his sin. As God wanted relationship with man and forgiveness he instigated the rite of sacrifice whereby the death of an animal would pay the price for man's sin and act as an atonement.

Of course all of this was to show God's ultimate sacrifice of His own Son as an eternal sacrifical lamb to finally reconcile mankind to God.

Whether people think this is nuts or not, this idea of sacrifice, which was universally carried out across the entire ancient world is ONLY properly explained in the Bible.

In fact if you study the Bible histories I promise you there is nothing more mind blowing in the world!

A brilliant book regarding this is Henry Morris' 'The Long War Against God'. In fact he wrote many mind blowing books.

He's dead now but he was absolutely hated with a passion by those high priests of evolution Richard Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould.

His stuff is well worth reading.
I'm going to look the Henry Morris book as soon as I get home from work. I am not very familiar with bible history, but 90% of what you said makes complete sense when you watch DVD 2 of that series where he finds many things that connect all the civilazations together yet historians say they never had any contact or should not have had any influence on each other. It discusses the sacrifices and their worship of serpents.... etc...

I have actually read Richdard Dawkins main evolution book and it's actually quite interesting.. I read it from a social evolution perspective and how our 'gene's' play a part in how we interact and just about eveything else we do..... But one thing that the 'evolution's' did wrong was present evolution as a reason for god perhaps not existing or creating us...

BUT, their was a very very very important line that Steven Hawking said in his "brief history of time" where he presents through research, that the stars are all slowly but constinently moving 'away' from each other.. Spreading out uniformaly so that the universe is expanding... So theoretically, going BACK through time, the stars would all get closer and eventually at some point in time billions of years ago, they would have all started in the one spot (big bang theory)..

But his important line was this - "This is in no way to discount the theory that god played a part in the creation of the universe, just that at that point when he DID create the universe, he made it appear that the universe did in fact exist for a time before he created it"...

In creating the universe, god gave us a history, that he did expect some of us to study.

Ever since since this I have seen the theory of evolution a different way... That point in time where god may have created us, he gave us a past. A past that at least some of us could study, and in the process, gain a better understanding of ourselves and explain why and what we are... Even if their was a point of creation at a certain point in time, at that exact time, we were given a past that we could 'study' and 'track' and 'observe' what we are... God did not leave evidence that we were suddently created, for that would be to puzzeling and the only thing we could learn from that is 'faith', and that's for everyone to find for themselves.... He gave us a past so we can better understand the bodies he has given us... No scientist can explain our soul and our level of deep understanding.... But from learning about 'where we came from', we can understand where we are going..

That's allowed me to keep a lot more open mind about any view of the subject..