Quote Originally Posted by Mr140
Sam langford is not above Ray in pound for pound and if you argue the fight with Duran then let me ask you this how you think the first one would of went if Ray boxed. As for Pryor you over rate the man and give me a article of Ray saying he ducked him or never fight him and i will believe you. Pryor competion was alright not great think you overrate him because you are a fan Pryor was good Leonard was a level above and his wins and career speak for him i don't have to.
Langford fought at Lightweight all the way up to Heavyweight beating great fighters, and had one of the best records of all time. So i think Langford is well ahead of Leonard in All Time P4P rankings without a doubt in my mind.

I don't overrate Pryor at all its a fact Leonard avoided Pryor in the Amateurs Leonard moved up a weight class to avoid Pryor, and in the pro's Pryor also called Leonard out at a press conference but yet again Leonard dismissed his challenge i wonder why ??

We aren't talking about there accomplishments we are talking about Leonard avoiding Aaron Pryor. Pryor was ducked quite a lot in his career plus his division wasn't filled with great names, that isn't his fault but he is still one of the best Jr Welterweights of all time.

Who knows if Duran could of beat Leonard in the 1st fight if Leonard boxed ?? all i know is that the 2nd fight was very close when Duran quit with stomach cramps. But what you must realize is that Duran come into that fight poorly conditioned, even Duran's team wanted to pull out of the fight. He had to lose 50+ pounds in a very short time so he was very weight drained and his training sessions were poor.