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Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
I'm going to watch today's fights later and comment but let's calm down folks and put the fights into perspective. It was questionable whether Tito was going to have the power to hurt Jones in the way Tarver and Johnson did. I find it amazing that people are saying RJJ would beat JC/B Hop. Put the fight into perspective,look at the opponent,the weight etc etc. Let Jones fight someone at 175,a tough opponent,see how he does then and then we can say he is a match for Cal and BHop.

As for Tito,he lost but sounds as if he didn't look too bad.I still don't think he can fight at this weight against the guys in the 168 pound division,so I'm not really syre where he goes from here. I'm totally shocked that Roman lost?!
For the love of me I cant really understand what guys have to do to get a break around here with some of you... Roy fought a great fight showed excellent defense that wasnt predicated on reflexes as well as not being gunshy

Every last one of you threw dirt on Jones and said he was done, he was weight drained ETC.. He comes out tonite shows out proves the naysayers wrong and really makes a splash and its just not good enough... Bernard Hopkins is a joke who throws 5 punches around and only 2 are legal, and we are getting way ahead of ourselves because we think Roy can beat him.. Cant really agree with that logic
You're over exaggerating. Just because some thought Jones may be weight drained didn't mean they thought he would lose. I certainly did'nt,check the prediciton contest if you don't believe me. I'm merely pointing that just because Jones beat a 2 year retired,never fought higher than 170 pounds Tito does not mean he can beat the 5 punch per round,2 legal Hopkins.That is no logic right there. I'd love love Jones to beat Hopkins,as I stated in a later post on this thread but I don't see it happening.

Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
RJJ was fast.Tito was competetive for a few rounds. I agreed with Kellerman and Steward,RJJ controlled that fight.When RJJ came forward,he would own Tito.If he wanted to counter,he could. Tito's power had zero effect on Roy.

However,I still stand by my original statement. Jones was the bigger man and it showed. Against B Hop and JC in particular,he would not have as much of an advantage. I agree his speed was good,in single shots. I'm pretty confident in saying that Calzaghe would totally outwork him and win an easy UD. JC fights 3 minutes of every round,Jones doesn't. I'd love to see Jones beat up B Hop but I think Hop is too wiley for Jones at this stage in their careers,he would pick off Jone single shots and would counter Jones. I have zero interest in that fight,it would be a snooze fest imo.

As for Tito,he was game but he was ultimately over matched. Where does he go from here? Who knows. I don't think his power is effective at this weight and I don't think he can hang with the elite 168 pounders nor make 160. I would say retire but I know he won't.

See?

Bernard would control the pace and would avoid Jones shots,which are fast but 1 shot at a time,easy for a defensive master like B Hop to defend against. I also said I didn't want to see the fight because it would be a snoozefest.Jones looked decent and won a fight he was supposed to win v a smaller guy,doesn't mean he can go and beat a defensive wizard like B Hop,who even though throws very little and is a dirty,dirty fighter,always manages to pull out the W.