i think by beating them both Joe will improve his name... however i believe he will never be ranked higher than jones jr...

to me calzaghe is better than hopkinas ever single day of the week, nard would of never lived with him... but no matter what he does now (evern tho Joe is "old" at this weight) they will always be older...

to me ROy is top 10, if not top 5 of all time... Joe could of been ranked anywhere roy would of if he wasn't welsh and was able to fight the fights an american would of been bale to..

hopkins was very good, but nothing more.

Calzaghe and Jones were fucking special.