I always though of Karmazin as one of the top guys at 154,awkward as heck and tough,with a few good wins and a close close loss to Spinks as evidence of his being one of the 54 pounders. This was just shocking though!! I think it is the end for him,taking into account his age and the fact that no-one wanted to fight him whenhe was a champ,let alone a contender,now he has lost,he's way way too high risk low reward for anyone! I'd love to see him bust up Forrest!