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Quote Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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yes i just got done watching mab vs jmm again, and heard once again how ridiculous those score cards where. I though mab won majority of the first half, then jmm dominated the 7th round but was floored at the last second(back to this round later). Jmm imo won majority of the second half, but the second half were more close rounds then the first as mab looked to had jmm beaten with his jabs.

Now as jmm began to come alive around the 4th round, 5th and 6th were still close. The 7th round was the turning point well up until mab came up with a brilliant straight right on jmms chin. With 1:32 left in the 7th round Jmm landed a huge straight right that had mab in trouble. Mab ofcourse battled back but Jmm again had mab in trouble between 55-50 seconds left into the round and almost had mab out of there but mab caught jmm with 46 seconds left in the 7th round with a short uppercut to stop jmm. That punch mab threw may have been what saved him from a stoppage, he showed why his a legend. Never easy to put him away, with little details like that his a fighter that must be appreciated for all time. Then that vintage barrera with 3 seconds left in a round where he was nearly put out and dominated, marco comes up with a huge straight right on the chin to put jmm on the canvas. Unfortunately Jay Nady didn't call it a knock down, if you guys look closely a guy in a blue jacket outside the ring infront of Nady signals not a knock down waving his hands in a fasion of "no knockdown sign". In the heat of the moment imo Nady was influence to react and falsely call it not a knock down. But before hand, marco mistakenly shows his mean streak and takes a shot at jmms head while jmm is on the canvas. Nady then compliments his mistake of calling a no knock down with a deduction to marco for hitting jmm while on the canvas. Crazy round but a great one that sticks out as one of the best rounds in recent years.

What did you guys think of the fight and the 7th round? I had the 7th round 9-8 for jmm, becuase i thought he won the round but i deducted a point cause he was knock down. I gave mab 8 points cause minus the deduction for hitting jmm while on the floor. So without the knockdown and point deduction it would of been a regular 10-9 round for marquez.

heres round 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gi55n0a4kk&NR=1
One thing Rains before i reply to this is that you cannot score a round 9-8 on the 10 point must system. Anyway i thought this was a very close fight i wouldn't of been disappointed with 1 or 2 point victory for either man but the scorecards were ridiculous. A lot of rounds could of gone either way because mostly every round was competitive except for 2 rounds. I have only watched this fight a few times so i can't remember my exact scorecard but if i remember right i scored it a draw. One argument that i hate is the *Power Punches Stats*. Yes Marquez did have quite a big advantage in that department but the stats are very misleading because Marquez did out land Barrera in power punches in a big way in the one sided 7th round and another round i think it was the 10th ?? but other than that they were pretty even in power punches so that stat is very misleading. As for the knockdown in the 7th it was a terrible call by the ref and he clearly was in a good position to see the knock down, this is where i think we need to have replay for the ref in between rounds so the ref can see for himself if it was a knock down or not or etc.

Overall great boxing match that was slightly ruined because of the ridiculous scoring.
I understand that, i hate the 10 point must system. this fight is a great example, if nady would of rule the knockdown correctly it would of been impossible to follow the 10 point must system. Since it would deduct a point from jmm for getting k.d. and a point from mab for hitting while jmm is on the floor. The only correct score for that round would of been 9-9 and the 10 point must system wouldn't make any sense cause in that round both fighters deserved to be deducted a point resulting in no 10 point for either. The reason I had to score it 9-8 cause I thought jmm won the round therfor i deducted another point from marco to make it 9-8 for jmm. I just can't give either fighter a 10 point for that round. My scorecard isn't official so as a fan that had the benefit of seeing the reply I am entitled to abondan the 10 point must system. I think they need to get rid of the 10 point must system and add a reply review for the ref and judges. I hate how the lazy judges decide the outcome of the fight while the fighters are the one doing the hard work inside the ring. Sometimes we should throw in those judges in the ring for being idiots, but i gotta to admit though that 10 point must system makes scoring even harder. Boxing really needs some tuning up, this fight is a great example. A great fight turn bizarre due to bad judges, bad call, and a poor system.

Im not sure what the power stats were, but check this out 3:38 of the video. It'll show how even they were with punches thrown. Both threw 529 total punches thru 9 rounds, and one 1 punch different in landed of punches. Marco landed 204, and jmm landed 203. That one punch marco landed gave him a 1% more accuracy then jmm. Marco 39% and Jmm 38%. This fight was needle thin close, for those judges to score the way they did they should never be allowed to judge a fight again.

3:38 of the video shows the stats thru the 9th;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1qwCjLIkn0&NR=1