P4P Best punchers All time

[El Kabong]

....Stanley Ketchel

He did almost KO Jack Johnson.....sucker punch it may have been but he landed it clean and hard

[Master]

Nigel Benn was more of a destructive hitter at middleweight where he gained those KO's over Dewitt and Barclay. He admitted himself he had to grow into Supermiddle and became a more mature fighter. His style was more relaxed at super middle and he still had power but knew when to get the punch off better.

Re-watching Terry Norris on the section of Julian Jackson KO, against Meldrick Taylor. He was a very good boxer puncher but not in the league of Hearns at light middle.

[Terry Nutkins]

Anybody who suggests that Duran's power increased as he moved through the divisions is deranged. Even at welterweight his power was severely diminished. Beyond that he stopped very few top level guys in the higher weights. In fact after Pipino and Moore in 83 his Ko's against meaningful opposition all but dried up.

The former lithe lightweight was replaced by a savy old lion who outsmarted younger and more powerful foes such as Barkley via decision. Even at his absolute peak when he unleashed a pugilistic masterclass against DeJesus in 78, it was once again remorseless, educated pressure rather than sheer force that settled the issue.

Duran was and never has been, at any weight, in true world class, a one punch knock out artist. As a lightweight he had very good power, but not devastating.

Duran is my favourite fighter who ever lived and quite possibly the greatest exponent ever of the noble art. But he does not fulfill the requisite criteria that the topic heading pertains to.

Without wishing to sound arrogant, but i inevitably will. Theres nobody on this forum, or any other forum for that matter who has a more intrinsic and intimate understanding of the career of Manos de piedra than myself. Thats not a boast, its just a fact.

Nigel Benn did not obliterate top world level opponents with single destructive shots. Even at middleweight he didn't, and at super middleweight he certainly did not. Once again i direct any dissenting voices to take a look at Benn's record, the empirical data is there for all to see.

Benn did not punch with anything remotely resembling the ferocity if g man or jackson. Once again look at the records, watch the footage, equate the quality of men faced with the level of destruction dishes d out and then form your conclusions. The Benn v Mcellen bout only serves to bolster my case, outcome aside, its obvious who possesses the heavier ammunition.

I enjoyed your postings ice cold and you've composed a very informed and constructive case that one cannot ignore. Its all subjective at the end of the day and thats the fun thing and ads to the quality of discourse. Apart from that maladroit cretin boozeboxer, i don't claim to know any more than the next man. Apart from Duran

As for the booze fellow, very poor postings my friend. No doubt its informed by the last time i overwhelmed you in the verbal orchard an lassoed you with my lexicon. Booze, allow me to illuminate your wafer like cranium with a thousand floodlights worth of veracity and sagacity that you yourself will never know. I will clear the dark and duty corridors of you corroding mind if you only submit and repent. Alternatively I could feed your filthy innards to feasting corinthians and display your corpulent severed hands as grotesque ornate ashtrays. Your boxing knowledge is woeful proletariat and your postings betray your putrid origins.

[Taeth]

Anybody who suggests that Duran's power increased as he moved through the divisions is deranged. Even at welterweight his power was severely diminished. Beyond that he stopped very few top level guys in the higher weights. In fact after Pipino and Moore in 83 his Ko's against meaningful opposition all but dried up.

The former lithe lightweight was replaced by a savy old lion who outsmarted younger and more powerful foes such as Barkley via decision. Even at his absolute peak when he unleashed a pugilistic masterclass against DeJesus in 78, it was once again remorseless, educated pressure rather than sheer force that settled the issue.

Duran was and never has been, at any weight, in true world class, a one punch knock out artist. As a lightweight he had very good power, but not devastating.

Duran is my favourite fighter who ever lived and quite possibly the greatest exponent ever of the noble art. But he does not fulfill the requisite criteria that the topic heading pertains to.

Without wishing to sound arrogant, but i inevitably will. Theres nobody on this forum, or any other forum for that matter who has a more intrinsic and intimate understanding of the career of Manos de piedra than myself. Thats not a boast, its just a fact.

Nigel Benn did not obliterate top world level opponents with single destructive shots. Even at middleweight he didn't, and at super middleweight he certainly did not. Once again i direct any dissenting voices to take a look at Benn's record, the empirical data is there for all to see.

Benn did not punch with anything remotely resembling the ferocity if g man or jackson. Once again look at the records, watch the footage, equate the quality of men faced with the level of destruction dishes d out and then form your conclusions. The Benn v Mcellen bout only serves to bolster my case, outcome aside, its obvious who possesses the heavier ammunition.

I enjoyed your postings ice cold and you've composed a very informed and constructive case that one cannot ignore. Its all subjective at the end of the day and thats the fun thing and ads to the quality of discourse. Apart from that maladroit cretin boozeboxer, i don't claim to know any more than the next man. Apart from Duran

As for the booze fellow, very poor postings my friend. No doubt its informed by the last time i overwhelmed you in the verbal orchard an lassoed you with my lexicon. Booze, allow me to illuminate your wafer like cranium with a thousand floodlights worth of veracity and sagacity that you yourself will never know. I will clear the dark and duty corridors of you corroding mind if you only submit and repent. Alternatively I could feed your filthy innards to feasting corinthians and display your corpulent severed hands as grotesque ornate ashtrays. Your boxing knowledge is woeful proletariat and your postings betray your putrid origins.

First of all Duran scored half his ko's after leaving the lightweight division if not more he ended up with a 103 wins 70 of them by KO... he was easily of the best punchers ever. He didn't have that one punch KO, but largely George Foreman, Marciano, didn't either. How top level guys did Tyson KO with one punch besides SPinks and Holmes? To say Duran may not have been a one punch KO type guy, but in terms of the impact of his punches there are very few who could match him p4p at lightweight.

[Terry Nutkins]

I select my candidates based on one punch career destructiveness. With that in mind, Duran has no place. You suggest that Duran scored half of his ko wins after leaving the lightweight division, that is erroneous, a falsehood. It is in fact one of the most poorly misguided remarks ever uttered on a boxing forum. You obviously know nothing about Duran, were the hell did you get from.

In his final fight as a lightweight in 78 against DeJesus, Duran recorded his fifty second win by way of Ko. Duran retired in 2002, in the 24 years following his win against Esteban, he stopped 18 more fighters. More than half of those 18 stoppages were recorded against club fighters in the mid 90's, anonymous foes such as Mike Culbert.

So fifty two out of seventy total career ko's were recorded when Duran fought at 135 pound limit. So your comments were a little misguided to say the least Taeth.

[ICB]

Benn did not punch with anything remotely resembling the ferocity if g man or jackson. Once again look at the records, watch the footage, equate the quality of men faced with the level of destruction dishes d out and then form your conclusions. The Benn v Mcellen bout only serves to bolster my case, outcome aside, its obvious who possesses the heavier ammunition.

Never denied that bro but because i done individual weight classes, it was pretty hard to choose someone at Super Middleweight. Because like i said Jackson never fought at Super Middleweight, and McClellan only fought there once in a losing effort against Benn. My other candidate was Roy Jones Jr which anyone could make an argument for, his speed generated a lot of explosive power, but overall IMO i think Benn edges Jones in the power department. But if we are talking P4P then i totally agree Jackson and McClellan for certain hit harder than Benn, i have always said Jackson is maybe the hardest hitting fighter of all time. He used to KO fighters without even trying, amazing and scary power at the same time.

[the wiz]

Michael Moorer was a devestating puncher at Light Heavy

[southakron314]

Tua , Morrison , Pryor and Tyson would be my honorable mentions.

[Syntax Error]

John Mugabi & Herbie Hide must on every list.

Ron Lyle is also worthy of shout.

Wilfredo Gomez must be the hardest p4p puncher ever.

[CutMeMick]

I can't believe I did not list Berrio...
Pissed off at myself I've preached about his power and now I don't even mention him...
26 wins, 25 ko's.... Wether you KO him or he KOs you.
You gotta love that.

[boozeboxer]

Anybody who suggests that Duran's power increased as he moved through the divisions is deranged. Even at welterweight his power was severely diminished. Beyond that he stopped very few top level guys in the higher weights. In fact after Pipino and Moore in 83 his Ko's against meaningful opposition all but dried up.

The former lithe lightweight was replaced by a savy old lion who outsmarted younger and more powerful foes such as Barkley via decision. Even at his absolute peak when he unleashed a pugilistic masterclass against DeJesus in 78, it was once again remorseless, educated pressure rather than sheer force that settled the issue.

Duran was and never has been, at any weight, in true world class, a one punch knock out artist. As a lightweight he had very good power, but not devastating.

Duran is my favourite fighter who ever lived and quite possibly the greatest exponent ever of the noble art. But he does not fulfill the requisite criteria that the topic heading pertains to.

Without wishing to sound arrogant, but i inevitably will. Theres nobody on this forum, or any other forum for that matter who has a more intrinsic and intimate understanding of the career of Manos de piedra than myself. Thats not a boast, its just a fact.

Nigel Benn did not obliterate top world level opponents with single destructive shots. Even at middleweight he didn't, and at super middleweight he certainly did not. Once again i direct any dissenting voices to take a look at Benn's record, the empirical data is there for all to see.

Benn did not punch with anything remotely resembling the ferocity if g man or jackson. Once again look at the records, watch the footage, equate the quality of men faced with the level of destruction dishes d out and then form your conclusions. The Benn v Mcellen bout only serves to bolster my case, outcome aside, its obvious who possesses the heavier ammunition.

I enjoyed your postings ice cold and you've composed a very informed and constructive case that one cannot ignore. Its all subjective at the end of the day and thats the fun thing and ads to the quality of discourse. Apart from that maladroit cretin boozeboxer, i don't claim to know any more than the next man. Apart from Duran

As for the booze fellow, very poor postings my friend. No doubt its informed by the last time i overwhelmed you in the verbal orchard an lassoed you with my lexicon. Booze, allow me to illuminate your wafer like cranium with a thousand floodlights worth of veracity and sagacity that you yourself will never know. I will clear the dark and duty corridors of you corroding mind if you only submit and repent. Alternatively I could feed your filthy innards to feasting corinthians and display your corpulent severed hands as grotesque ornate ashtrays. Your boxing knowledge is woeful proletariat and your postings betray your putrid origins.

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[Big_Deuce]

Can pavlik be considered on that list yet?
I mean with the destruction of miranda and JT, he definately has some pop to his punch

[donnydarkoIRL]

Posted by Terry Nutkins:
Anybody who suggests that Duran's power increased as he moved through the divisions is deranged. Even at welterweight his power was severely diminished. Beyond that he stopped very few top level guys in the higher weights. In fact after Pipino and Moore in 83 his Ko's against meaningful opposition all but dried up.
Terry you must acknowledge that for a natural lightweight to be able to stand and trade (and indeed win) with men from the Middleweight and Supermiddleweight, illustrates that the man had above average punching power?
The former lithe lightweight was replaced by a savy old lion who outsmarted younger and more powerful foes such as Barkley via decision. Even at his absolute peak when he unleashed a pugilistic masterclass against DeJesus in 78, it was once again remorseless, educated pressure rather than sheer force that settled the issue.
Terry, although I am the first to defend Duran when his skills are questioned, I never felt he was a smart fighter. He had defensive skills surely and indeed his offensive arsenal was quite exemplary, but in his fights he used little intellect. As you said he used pressure, force and aggression to wear down opponents. Again I ask you, could a man who was naturally a lightweight grind down fighters such as Barkley if he was only possessed of a Lightweights power?
Duran was and never has been, at any weight, in true world class, a one punch knock out artist. As a lightweight he had very good power, but not devastating.
From that Logic one might argue that Foreman, Tyson and Chavez were not true knockout artists as their most famed victories came from a number of punches landing in succession or following a previous knockdown.

Duran is my favourite fighter who ever lived and quite possibly the greatest exponent ever of the noble art. But he does not fulfill the requisite criteria that the topic heading pertains to.
Without wishing to sound arrogant, but i inevitably will. Theres nobody on this forum, or any other forum for that matter who has a more intrinsic and intimate understanding of the career of Manos de piedra than myself. Thats not a boast, its just a fact.
Terry, I'm not accusing you of arrogance, however I do take issue with the above. I feel you cannot posibly make that claim whilst you post so infrrequently on this website. Had you spent more time in conversation with the posters here you would have learned of the numerous Duarn fanatics that reside her. In addition I personally know of two posters here who have trained and worked with Duran, so your statement is slightly flawed already.
I admire the love you so obviously have of this fighter, but bear in mind nobody is infalliable, nor is anyone all-knowing.

Nigel Benn did not obliterate top world level opponents with single destructive shots. Even at middleweight he didn't, and at super middleweight he certainly did not. Once again i direct any dissenting voices to take a look at Benn's record, the empirical data is there for all to see.
This is related to my earlier answer, to say this casts doubt upon the knockout ability of fighters such as Tyson, Chavez and Foreman.

[Taeth]

I thought I'd put these up since most of the time the same names get mentioned over and over....
Heres some that I feel belong up there with the best....

"P4P Forgotten Punchers"
'Chapo' Rosario
Alfonso Zamora
'Little Red' Lopez
'Pipino' Cuevas
Wladdy
Bob Fitzsimmons
Benny Bass
'Prince' Naseem
Jack Dempsey
'Puas' Olivares
'El Flaco Explosivo' Arguello
'Miracle' Saad
JCC
Gerry Cooney
'Poison' Pimentel

Going to add Ketchler

[boozeboxer]

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Removed or not I would like everyone to note that Terry is in fact a windup artist, who repeats posts that he has copied from other boxing sites. The truth of the matter is that he has no opinion of his own, unless you count his pathetic rants and depracating tone towards other members.


The truth is that Terry Nutkins has some of the most illiterate posts ever posted (a fault which he must have failed to catch while copying and pasting from other sites and makes no effort to remedy despite using them numerous times). Not only are his posts ornamented with bogus ideas and fake references, but are full of literary words tossed about with the most reckless inaccuracy.