Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 209

Thread: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    14,152
    Mentioned
    124 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2004
    Cool Clicks

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Some OLD people don't like Civil Rights but most any rational person doesn't have an issue with race, especially not to the extent there has been before. We have come a LONG way.

    You apparently either don't understand the history or misunderstand the history of racism in the South or in America in general....you do realize that America was the only nation to have slavery as one of the issues that spurred on the Civil War.....that war created resentment and Reconstruction laid the roots for the KKK and other vigilanty racist organizations. Meanwhile other nations just bought the slaves and set them free....therefore little to no resentment and no casualties resulted from those ends to slavery.

    What have Rush and Michael Savage said that is racist?


    I do expect this to be worse than what Imus said which wasn't really racist and could barely pass for sexist......but Al Sharpton got in that spotlight, he does love the spotlight so.


    And aren't you familiar with "Two wrongs don't make a right"....either it's wrong to say or it isn't wrong to say but that has to be the rule for EVERYONE......i'll be damned if you'd use the N word down here, North Carolina is extremely progressive in the larger cities, I can't speak much for the small towns but for the most part this state #1 never wanted to get in the Civil War to begin with and #2 slave labor wasn't a big part of the state's economy and we never developed the slave owning aristocracy that ran Virginia and South Carolina....and we are considered a Valley of Humility between Two Mountains of Conceit (those mountains being VA and SC)
    There is still a vast amount of racism in the south, something still reflected in the politics of the region. John McCain lost the (North or South) Carolina 2000 primary because a Bush telephone push poll accused him incorrectly of fathering a black baby. Those GOP politics guys like karl Rove certainly know their market.

    And GOP racism to appeal to their southern base continues today. In 1980, while running for president, Ronald Reagan, appeared at the Neshoba County Fair in Philadelphia, Mississippi, best known as the site of the murders of three civil rights workers by various pillars of the community. There, he gave a speech about the need for states' rights, time-honored code in that part of the country for white racists' resentment over forced desegregation. The scene was generally taken as an unusually blunt reaching out by a major candidate to the bigot vote, and not long after, Reagan did indeed receive the KKK's official endorsement for the presidency. But the appearance in Philadelphia, while unmistakable in the signals it gave off, was still safely within the realm of the "symbolic", and it's bad form to blame someone for his tackier fans, so nobody in the mainstream dared whisper that Reagan himself actually had a racist bone in his body, not even after he expressed his opposition to the creation of a holiday honoring Martin Luther King, Jr., and in the course of that opposition indicated that he mainly considered Dr. King to have been an uppity troublemaker and very likely a Communist agent. When it was time for Reagan to move on into his twilight years, his vice-president, George Bush the Elder, overcame his essential emptiness and lack of any serious widespread support in part by means of a TV commercial that tied his opponent to a scary-looking black man. Of course, everyone understood that Bush had no racist impulses in him but had to do what he had to do to ensure the votes of Joe Caveman. Back in 1964, Bush had campaigned hard against the 1964 Civil Rights Act; two years into his presidency, he would veto the 1990 Civil Rights Act, after having Congresional Republicans work hard shaping it to his preferred specifications. After considerable criticism, he would reluctantly sign a civil rights bill the next year, at a point when his prospects for re-election were already in free fall. Early in 1992, after the Rodney King verdict resulted in the L.A. riots, Bush would dispatch Marlin Fitzwater to explain that the riots were Lyndon Johnson's fault, and the the result of having been too nice to inner city blacks in the 1960s.

    Again, as anyone in the liberal media could tell you, none of this reflected any racial insensitivity on the part of the people involved. It was "just politics", and that meant anything that worked was fair and justifiable. On the other hand, during the same period as Bush's presidency, David Duke got himself elected to the Louisiana legislature and then set his sights on the governor's mansion, and this, everyone agreed, was a crisis. No one was more upset about it than Republicans like Bush, who feared that Duke might be taken as representative of a part of the Republican party and give it a bad name. Duke didn't stagger around calling people "niggers" and calling for a return to slavery. He talked about rising crime rates and too much money going to welfare families and a society gone to hell in a handbasket because of excess tolerance of the wrong sort and government sticking its nose in where it didn't belong and making things hard for Mister and Missus Lily-White.

    In other words, he talked like Ronald Reagan and like a hundred other Republicans who had learned to speak in code to white bigots who felt that some measure of their freedom had been curtailed because black kids could sit next to their kids on the bus. The problem was, Duke had been a self-proclaimed Nazi and Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. If Duke had appeared out of nowhere in 1989 with no paper trail and no photos of him wearing stastikas and prancing around his college campus toting a sign reading "GAS THE CHICAGO 7", there would have been no reason for the media or his fellow Republicans to object to the obvious racist strain in his positions and statements; it would have been as okay as it had been with Reagan and Bush, because it would have been "just politics." But Duke's past made it uncomfortably likely that he wasn't simply pandering to open-mouthed hillbilly bigots. Everyone agreed that he had no place in American politics, because he meant what he said.

    Rush Limbaugh called jesse Jackson a chocolate chip cookie. He told aa African-American caller to take the bone out of his nose. Just google him, he's made endless racist comments throughout his career. Are you seriously claiming he hasn't made racist comments?

    You can ignore national commentators with audiences of millions yet one comment by a boxer and this is more evidence to you that you're an oppressed ethnic group. No the wonder America is so fucked up.

  2. #2
    El Kabong Guest

    Default

    McCain lost SOUTH CAROLINA(it's a very important difference)due to the W push polling. And there was the first clue that Karl Rove is evil. McCain does have an adopted child from Bangladesh which one has to assume is who they made the statement about....and that was really heartless.

    The party names don't mean anything they racists switch sides no matter what....what was a Southern Democrat is now a Republican and that brought baggage along with it but the issues that were important to the southern people were never specifically race or segregation until the Civil Rights Act was passed by Johnson.

    There is just as much racism in the North as there is in the South...and I stick by that, there always has been it's just different types.

    As for Duke, yeah he's 1 KKK member of the Republican party, just trust me when I say historically there are tons more Democrat racists.


    I can see some issue with the "bone out of the nose" comment but chocolate chip cookie I don't get that one.....he's definently pushed the envelope but I figured you were going to use the "Barack the magic negro" as your example, when it was originally a story done by a guy at the LA Times and Rush just made fun of it....I'm not a fan of his, especially recently with his opposition to John McCain and Mike Huckabee.

    I try to pay close attention to everyone when they say racist things...usually it's just a fit of frustration that would make people say racist things but it's not the case with Hopkins....I just wanted it made clear that I don't agree with Hopkins' comment and if people don't voice their opinions about it in a rational reasonable manner then everyone will think it's ok.

    And also a sense of humor isn't a bad thing to have when it's not as serious as some other issues....like the Duke Lacrosse case or in an even worse case of North Carolina history the Darryl Hunt case.


    Racism and these kinds of issues don't get better when you go tit for tat these issues get better when you work together to achieve a common goal.....the problem is finding the common goal

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    14,152
    Mentioned
    124 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2004
    Cool Clicks

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    McCain lost SOUTH CAROLINA(it's a very important difference)due to the W push polling. And there was the first clue that Karl Rove is evil. McCain does have an adopted child from Bangladesh which one has to assume is who they made the statement about....and that was really heartless.

    The party names don't mean anything they racists switch sides no matter what....what was a Southern Democrat is now a Republican and that brought baggage along with it but the issues that were important to the southern people were never specifically race or segregation until the Civil Rights Act was passed by Johnson.

    There is just as much racism in the North as there is in the South...and I stick by that, there always has been it's just different types.

    As for Duke, yeah he's 1 KKK member of the Republican party, just trust me when I say historically there are tons more Democrat racists.


    I can see some issue with the "bone out of the nose" comment but chocolate chip cookie I don't get that one.....he's definently pushed the envelope but I figured you were going to use the "Barack the magic negro" as your example, when it was originally a story done by a guy at the LA Times and Rush just made fun of it....I'm not a fan of his, especially recently with his opposition to John McCain and Mike Huckabee.

    I try to pay close attention to everyone when they say racist things...usually it's just a fit of frustration that would make people say racist things but it's not the case with Hopkins....I just wanted it made clear that I don't agree with Hopkins' comment and if people don't voice their opinions about it in a rational reasonable manner then everyone will think it's ok.

    And also a sense of humor isn't a bad thing to have when it's not as serious as some other issues....like the Duke Lacrosse case or in an even worse case of North Carolina history the Darryl Hunt case.


    Racism and these kinds of issues don't get better when you go tit for tat these issues get better when you work together to achieve a common goal.....the problem is finding the common goal
    Yeah, I forgot about the huge difference between North and South Carolinans. God knows what their Wal Mart queues look like.

    And you were convinced in the third post of this thread that white people were oppressed because of something Bernard Hopkins said.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Royal Kunia, Oahu
    Posts
    4,652
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2335
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Enough already, You act like whites do not have any values. Why are U so determined to prove a white person wrong? Just let it go already. Bernard was wrong, He knows it, U know it and I know it.... Just let it be.
    Hidden Content

    Welcome to the 21st Century. No Sex, Drug and Rock'n'Roll. All we have nowadays is AIDS, Meth and Crap Music Hidden Content

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,034
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1166
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Hey Kirkland Laing you are one boring SOB with no life to come up with all the shit you come up with.You talk shit about America and it's problems you need to get a life and forget about ours and on behalf of the good people of North Carolina and the rest of the South I would like to say FUCKYOU!!!!!!!!!
    WHO NEXT ?Hidden Content

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    18,672
    Mentioned
    40 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    Hey Kirkland Laing you are one boring SOB with no life to come up with all the shit you come up with.You talk shit about America and it's problems you need to get a life and forget about ours and on behalf of the good people of North Carolina and the rest of the South I would like to say FUCKYOU!!!!!!!!!
    Laing has a lot of time on his hands ever since his mom grounded him for not washing the dishes. So he's on here talking nonsense like always. Fucking idiot needs to get a life.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Royal Kunia, Oahu
    Posts
    4,652
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2335
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Laing has a lot of time on his hands ever since his mom grounded him for not washing the dishes. So he's on here talking nonsense like always. Fucking idiot needs to get a life.
    He does have a life.... Burden on US Tax Payers.
    Hidden Content

    Welcome to the 21st Century. No Sex, Drug and Rock'n'Roll. All we have nowadays is AIDS, Meth and Crap Music Hidden Content

  8. #8
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Yeah, I forgot about the huge difference between North and South Carolinans. God knows what their Wal Mart queues look like.

    And you were convinced in the third post of this thread that white people were oppressed because of something Bernard Hopkins said.
    .....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


    Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

    And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

    You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    7,899
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


    Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

    And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

    You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE
    Lyle its the whole attack dogs on peaceful protesters,making post cards of lynchings thing
    Most Germans have the decency to feel really guilty about WW2,judging by the amount of confederate flags,this is not a prevelant attitude for white southerners

  10. #10
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Lyle its the whole attack dogs on peaceful protesters,making post cards of lynchings thing
    Most Germans have the decency to feel really guilty about WW2,judging by the amount of confederate flags,this is not a prevelant attitude for white southerners
    Yes, some people fly them legitimately for historical purposes and heritage......and others for pure hatred, is it any different than any other flag

    World War II happened just over 60 years ago....the Civil War happened a lot longer ago than that.....and therefore the people affected by the Holocaust are still with us though in fewer numbers with each passing day.....I don't believe anyone specifically affected by the Civil War is still alive or even the grand children of people affected by the Civil War are alive to this day.

    The economic aspects of the war were where the biggest resentment built up.....and that resentment was wrongfully taken out on blacks. The Union states wanted to have THE SAY in the US economy and cut the legs out from under the Southern states by not following passed laws such as the Fugitive Slave Act and so on.

    I am not really bothered by the use of the flag in my state or my hometown...we have a large Quaker population and they are opposed to both War and Slavery as well as North Carolina didn't have a huge amount invested in the Civil War other than just trying to be at peace with it's closest neighbors....the agitators in the South....now Virginia, South Carolina, Tennesse, and Georgia didn't start the war but they didn't help matters with their actions....some people fly it some people don't, I can respect both views as my state also supplied the most troops to the Confederacy

    "Elected in 1862, Governor Zebulon Vance tried to maintain state autonomy against Confederate President Jefferson Davis in Richmond. Even after secession, some North Carolinians refused to support the Confederacy. This was particularly true of non-slave-owning farmers in the state's mountains and western Piedmont region." - Wikipedia

    I still believe in States' Rights....not for any racial prejudices but because it's the 10th Amendment and states have issues they need to deal with without the Federal Government stepping in.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    7,899
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Yes, some people fly them legitimately for historical purposes and heritage......and others for pure hatred, is it any different than any other flag

    World War II happened just over 60 years ago....the Civil War happened a lot longer ago than that.....and therefore the people affected by the Holocaust are still with us though in fewer numbers with each passing day.....I don't believe anyone specifically affected by the Civil War is still alive or even the grand children of people affected by the Civil War are alive to this day.

    The economic aspects of the war were where the biggest resentment built up.....and that resentment was wrongfully taken out on blacks. The Union states wanted to have THE SAY in the US economy and cut the legs out from under the Southern states by not following passed laws such as the Fugitive Slave Act and so on.

    I am not really bothered by the use of the flag in my state or my hometown...we have a large Quaker population and they are opposed to both War and Slavery as well as North Carolina didn't have a huge amount invested in the Civil War other than just trying to be at peace with it's closest neighbors....the agitators in the South....now Virginia, South Carolina, Tennesse, and Georgia didn't start the war but they didn't help matters with their actions....some people fly it some people don't, I can respect both views as my state also supplied the most troops to the Confederacy

    "Elected in 1862, Governor Zebulon Vance tried to maintain state autonomy against Confederate President Jefferson Davis in Richmond. Even after secession, some North Carolinians refused to support the Confederacy. This was particularly true of non-slave-owning farmers in the state's mountains and western Piedmont region." - Wikipedia

    I still believe in States' Rights....not for any racial prejudices but because it's the 10th Amendment and states have issues they need to deal with without the Federal Government stepping in.
    You know aswastika is more or less illegal in most of Germany
    I mean its part of their heritage and history isnt it?

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    14,152
    Mentioned
    124 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2004
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


    Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

    And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

    You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE
    You started off the thread complaining about how white people are a victimised group in America. How nobody stands up for them. Breathtaking delusion and self-pity all wrapped up in a very unattractive package.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    14,152
    Mentioned
    124 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2004
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Megan Williams, a twenty-year-old black woman, was sexually assaulted, tortured, and stabbed repeatedly by a West Virginia gang of rural whites led by a woman. Police in Logan County, West Virginia, responded to a call on September 8 to the Peck’s Mill home of Frankie Brewster, a 49-year-old white woman, who with five four men and two women held the victim captive for more than a week. The victim was reportedly told she would be killed if she tried to escape.

    The complainant was reportedly stabbed four times, as well as repeatedly assaulted sexually and humiliated by the six who are now under arrest for their participation in the sadistic torture. The 20-year-old was reportedly to perform deviant sex acts with women and men and raped at knife point. Frankie Brewster’s son, Bobby, is alleged to have forced the victim to eat dog and rat feces. Also, one of the victim’s torturers, a woman, reportedly said “This is what we do to niggers around here” and also choked her victim with an electric cord.

    Logan County authorities are holding the following men: Bobby Brewster (24); Danny Combs (20); George Messer (27), as well as the women Frankie Brewster (49); Alisha Burton (22); and Karen Burton (46). They are facing multiple felony and misdemeanor charges of sexual assault, kidnapping, and malicious wounding. Federal “hate crime” charges may follow. Williams was taken to hospital and is being treated for serious injuries.



    http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...+West+Virginia


    Neither blacks nor whites have a monopoly on animal behaviour. Pretending that one group is worse than another to justify your backwardness is just pathetic.

    And Lyle pretending that there aren't serious racism issues in the south is undermined by your southern compatriot and his beautiful racist language in this thread. It's that kind of ignorant hatred that's still prevalent in the south.

  14. #14
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    That was sarcasm with a hint of irony...I suppose that just slipped by you in your rush to judgement of me as some country bumpkin who is whining and complaining......no, I just want fair treatment on all sides.

    Chuck Todd, Political Analyst for MSNBC just compared the people who vote for Obama and the people who vote for Clinton as the "Schlitz crowd vs the Shablee crowd".....I expect consequences and repercussions to follow that as well....but so far no one has said anything about it as it just happened not but 20 minutes ago.



    Don't rush to judge me, you come off as combative when you try and bull rush me like this...I don't feel threatened by you or anything I just think that it gets ridiculous after a while you keep trying to hammer your point home when you've completely missed the point of my post

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    14,152
    Mentioned
    124 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2004
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    That was sarcasm with a hint of irony...I suppose that just slipped by you in your rush to judgement of me as some country bumpkin who is whining and complaining......no, I just want fair treatment on all sides.

    Chuck Todd, Political Analyst for MSNBC just compared the people who vote for Obama and the people who vote for Clinton as the "Schlitz crowd vs the Shablee crowd".....I expect consequences and repercussions to follow that as well....but so far no one has said anything about it as it just happened not but 20 minutes ago.



    Don't rush to judge me, you come off as combative when you try and bull rush me like this...I don't feel threatened by you or anything I just think that it gets ridiculous after a while you keep trying to hammer your point home when you've completely missed the point of my post
    The point of your post was to complain about how white folks have it so hard in America, a delusional self-pitying view completely at odds with the facts.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing