B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

[El Kabong]

Yeah, I forgot about the huge difference between North and South Carolinans. God knows what their Wal Mart queues look like.

And you were convinced in the third post of this thread that white people were oppressed because of something Bernard Hopkins said.

.....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE

[Trainer Monkey]

.....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE

Lyle its the whole attack dogs on peaceful protesters,making post cards of lynchings thing
Most Germans have the decency to feel really guilty about WW2,judging by the amount of confederate flags,this is not a prevelant attitude for white southerners

[El Kabong]

Lyle its the whole attack dogs on peaceful protesters,making post cards of lynchings thing
Most Germans have the decency to feel really guilty about WW2,judging by the amount of confederate flags,this is not a prevelant attitude for white southerners

Yes, some people fly them legitimately for historical purposes and heritage......and others for pure hatred, is it any different than any other flag

World War II happened just over 60 years ago....the Civil War happened a lot longer ago than that.....and therefore the people affected by the Holocaust are still with us though in fewer numbers with each passing day.....I don't believe anyone specifically affected by the Civil War is still alive or even the grand children of people affected by the Civil War are alive to this day.

The economic aspects of the war were where the biggest resentment built up.....and that resentment was wrongfully taken out on blacks. The Union states wanted to have THE SAY in the US economy and cut the legs out from under the Southern states by not following passed laws such as the Fugitive Slave Act and so on.

I am not really bothered by the use of the flag in my state or my hometown...we have a large Quaker population and they are opposed to both War and Slavery as well as North Carolina didn't have a huge amount invested in the Civil War other than just trying to be at peace with it's closest neighbors....the agitators in the South....now Virginia, South Carolina, Tennesse, and Georgia didn't start the war but they didn't help matters with their actions....some people fly it some people don't, I can respect both views as my state also supplied the most troops to the Confederacy

"Elected in 1862, Governor Zebulon Vance tried to maintain state autonomy against Confederate President Jefferson Davis in Richmond. Even after secession, some North Carolinians refused to support the Confederacy. This was particularly true of non-slave-owning farmers in the state's mountains and western Piedmont region." - Wikipedia

I still believe in States' Rights....not for any racial prejudices but because it's the 10th Amendment and states have issues they need to deal with without the Federal Government stepping in.

[Trainer Monkey]

Yes, some people fly them legitimately for historical purposes and heritage......and others for pure hatred, is it any different than any other flag

World War II happened just over 60 years ago....the Civil War happened a lot longer ago than that.....and therefore the people affected by the Holocaust are still with us though in fewer numbers with each passing day.....I don't believe anyone specifically affected by the Civil War is still alive or even the grand children of people affected by the Civil War are alive to this day.

The economic aspects of the war were where the biggest resentment built up.....and that resentment was wrongfully taken out on blacks. The Union states wanted to have THE SAY in the US economy and cut the legs out from under the Southern states by not following passed laws such as the Fugitive Slave Act and so on.

I am not really bothered by the use of the flag in my state or my hometown...we have a large Quaker population and they are opposed to both War and Slavery as well as North Carolina didn't have a huge amount invested in the Civil War other than just trying to be at peace with it's closest neighbors....the agitators in the South....now Virginia, South Carolina, Tennesse, and Georgia didn't start the war but they didn't help matters with their actions....some people fly it some people don't, I can respect both views as my state also supplied the most troops to the Confederacy

"Elected in 1862, Governor Zebulon Vance tried to maintain state autonomy against Confederate President Jefferson Davis in Richmond. Even after secession, some North Carolinians refused to support the Confederacy. This was particularly true of non-slave-owning farmers in the state's mountains and western Piedmont region." - Wikipedia

I still believe in States' Rights....not for any racial prejudices but because it's the 10th Amendment and states have issues they need to deal with without the Federal Government stepping in.

You know aswastika is more or less illegal in most of Germany
I mean its part of their heritage and history isnt it?

[El Kabong]

You know aswastika is more or less illegal in most of Germany
I mean its part of their heritage and history isnt it?

And were millions of blacks murdered by the Southern States under the Stars and Bars?

NO it would be economic suicide as their work gave the South money and not having them would therefore deprive the South of it's good economic status at the time.

The correct thing for the Union to do would be to pay for the rights to all slaves and then pass legislation to set them free and then there is no war, there is freedom, and there are no hard feelings.....there would have been JOBS that were then availible and legal....and then if they were treated poorly the unionization of farmers and field workers would have happened and things would have been good after that.


Slavery is and was a horrible thing....but in all other countries it didn't evoke a war


And once again, the people harmed in the Holocaust and WWII by the Nazi's are still alive.....the Civil War was a loooong time ago, no need to fix something that's not really broken especially in a nation which values free speech....especially the speech which you don't agree with

[X]

You know aswastika is more or less illegal in most of Germany
I mean its part of their heritage and history isnt it?

No, it is a Hindu good luck symbol which came from the Sanskrit alphabet (which is something of an irony lost on the Master Race at the time )

Guys, this argument is getting a bit petty and personal. I don't know where you are all from but it smells to be that there is an awful lot of moralising and also some pointless dissemination going on so far. I don;t think anyone is going to convince anyone else to fundamentally change their views ..... so the debate is essentially just pointless noise, degenerating into insults.

If this question was so easy, hundreds of years of human history would have been different ... we all agree, I think, that Hopkins was being a fucking idiot when he said it, and his subsequest comment that he was doing it to sell tickets also tells us that he thinks we, the fans, are idiots too.

So speaks X, the voice of reason and sanity on this Board

[Kirkland Laing]

.....and yet comments like yours are completely socially acceptable.


Why must you constantly attack me and my personal views....all I said in the begining was what Hopkins said was wrong, and his explination for saying it was ludicrous.

And now I am being LECTURED to about my own state...I don't really see the purpose of this discussion in this thread...hell we could take a whole thread and talk about the history of the South.

You are so quick to judge...and without realizing the events that lead up to the feelings of racism. Your cultural stereotypes are unwanted and uncalled for....and if you dislike the South so much, I suggest you don't come back....not because anything bad would happen to you but because we don't like people who bitch all the fucking time about where they live....MOVE

You started off the thread complaining about how white people are a victimised group in America. How nobody stands up for them. Breathtaking delusion and self-pity all wrapped up in a very unattractive package.

[Kirkland Laing]

Megan Williams, a twenty-year-old black woman, was sexually assaulted, tortured, and stabbed repeatedly by a West Virginia gang of rural whites led by a woman. Police in Logan County, West Virginia, responded to a call on September 8 to the Peck’s Mill home of Frankie Brewster, a 49-year-old white woman, who with five four men and two women held the victim captive for more than a week. The victim was reportedly told she would be killed if she tried to escape.

The complainant was reportedly stabbed four times, as well as repeatedly assaulted sexually and humiliated by the six who are now under arrest for their participation in the sadistic torture. The 20-year-old was reportedly to perform deviant sex acts with women and men and raped at knife point. Frankie Brewster’s son, Bobby, is alleged to have forced the victim to eat dog and rat feces. Also, one of the victim’s torturers, a woman, reportedly said “This is what we do to niggers around here” and also choked her victim with an electric cord.

Logan County authorities are holding the following men: Bobby Brewster (24); Danny Combs (20); George Messer (27), as well as the women Frankie Brewster (49); Alisha Burton (22); and Karen Burton (46). They are facing multiple felony and misdemeanor charges of sexual assault, kidnapping, and malicious wounding. Federal “hate crime” charges may follow. Williams was taken to hospital and is being treated for serious injuries.



http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...+West+Virginia


Neither blacks nor whites have a monopoly on animal behaviour. Pretending that one group is worse than another to justify your backwardness is just pathetic.

And Lyle pretending that there aren't serious racism issues in the south is undermined by your southern compatriot and his beautiful racist language in this thread. It's that kind of ignorant hatred that's still prevalent in the south.

[El Kabong]

That was sarcasm with a hint of irony...I suppose that just slipped by you in your rush to judgement of me as some country bumpkin who is whining and complaining......no, I just want fair treatment on all sides.

Chuck Todd, Political Analyst for MSNBC just compared the people who vote for Obama and the people who vote for Clinton as the "Schlitz crowd vs the Shablee crowd".....I expect consequences and repercussions to follow that as well....but so far no one has said anything about it as it just happened not but 20 minutes ago.



Don't rush to judge me, you come off as combative when you try and bull rush me like this...I don't feel threatened by you or anything I just think that it gets ridiculous after a while you keep trying to hammer your point home when you've completely missed the point of my post

[Kirkland Laing]

That was sarcasm with a hint of irony...I suppose that just slipped by you in your rush to judgement of me as some country bumpkin who is whining and complaining......no, I just want fair treatment on all sides.

Chuck Todd, Political Analyst for MSNBC just compared the people who vote for Obama and the people who vote for Clinton as the "Schlitz crowd vs the Shablee crowd".....I expect consequences and repercussions to follow that as well....but so far no one has said anything about it as it just happened not but 20 minutes ago.



Don't rush to judge me, you come off as combative when you try and bull rush me like this...I don't feel threatened by you or anything I just think that it gets ridiculous after a while you keep trying to hammer your point home when you've completely missed the point of my post

The point of your post was to complain about how white folks have it so hard in America, a delusional self-pitying view completely at odds with the facts.

[El Kabong]

The point of your post was to complain about how white folks have it so hard in America, a delusional self-pitying view completely at odds with the facts.

...your view on my post is much like all your other posts......wrong

[Kirkland Laing]

...your view on my post is much like all your other posts......wrong

I'm happy to let our fellow forumers make their own judgement on that one.

[El Kabong]

I'm happy to let our fellow forumers make their own judgement on that one.

Fine by me

[Violent Demise]

I'm happy to let our fellow forumers make their own judgement on that one.

Lyle is right. Your posts are garbage. Seems like you enjoy showing people how much of an idiot you are.

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

That was sarcasm with a hint of irony...I suppose that just slipped by you in your rush to judgement of me as some country bumpkin who is whining and complaining......no, I just want fair treatment on all sides.

Chuck Todd, Political Analyst for MSNBC just compared the people who vote for Obama and the people who vote for Clinton as the "Schlitz crowd vs the Shablee crowd".....I expect consequences and repercussions to follow that as well....but so far no one has said anything about it as it just happened not but 20 minutes ago.



Don't rush to judge me, you come off as combative when you try and bull rush me like this...I don't feel threatened by you or anything I just think that it gets ridiculous after a while you keep trying to hammer your point home when you've completely missed the point of my post

What is Lyle we have a Mike Nifong on our hands and he's on a witch hunt.