Will Wlad Klitchsko enter P4P top ten if he beats Ibragimov??

[ICB]

One thing I don't get is how is Joe C so high when Klitchsko is not even in people's top 15

Klitschko hasn't beaten the best in his division Calzaghe has, Calzaghe also gets his ranking for his accomplishments of making 20+ title defenses, what also hurts Wlad is his 3 brutal KO losses, i could name 15 boxers that should be rated higher than Wlad no problem.

Juan Diaz
Joe Calzaghe
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kelly Pavlik
Manny Pacquiao
Israel Vasquez
Rafael Marquez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joan Guzman
Winky Wright
Ivan Calderon
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Bernard Hopkins
Christian Mijares

[leftylee]

Klitschko hasn't beaten the best in his division Calzaghe has, Calzaghe also gets his ranking for his accomplishments of making 20+ title defenses, what also hurts Wlad is his 3 brutal KO losses, i could name 15 boxers that should be rated higher than Wlad no problem.

Juan Diaz
Joe Calzaghe
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Kelly Pavlik
Manny Pacquiao
Israel Vasquez
Rafael Marquez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joan Guzman
Winky Wright
Ivan Calderon
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Bernard Hopkins
Christian Mijares

That could be a factor his 3 KO lossses and also how bad the heavyweight division is ATM.

[Tins06]

Yep Joe C only got himself into the p4p rating recently..Just after Lacy.Personally I feel he should have been higher sooner,but the opponents wern't there so Joes fault,noone else's.But he got himself in based on his lacy performance and solidified his place based on the Kessler performance.
It baffles me B-Hop is higher than Joe but my opinion on that is that he just loOked plain poor in his last couple of fights...Yet the ring have nothing but praise for B-Hop.But based on B-Hops opponents he deserves it.

[Bomp]

Too many question marks on him, and the division is a mess.

[Barlick]

Too many question marks on him, and the division is a mess.

Do you think back in the '70s boxing fans were talking about how brilliant the heavyweight scene was? Ha-ha, neither do I. 'Ali ain't what he was . . . Foreman overrated . . . Holmes a bum . . . what a mess!'

And in 20 years' time people will be waxing lyrical about the one today.

[boozeboxer]

Do you think back in the '70s boxing fans were talking about how brilliant the heavyweight scene was? Ha-ha, neither do I. 'Ali ain't what he was . . . Foreman overrated . . . Holmes a bum . . . what a mess!'

And in 20 years' time people will be waxing lyrical about the one today.

I actually don't think that is a fair comparison. I don't think there are three heavyweights today that are even in SHAPE. Most of the contenders and all look fat and not impressive. In fact if the HW division is THAT much worse in 30-40 years, the division will be dead.

[Barlick]

I actually don't think that is a fair comparison. I don't think there are three heavyweights today that are even in SHAPE. Most of the contenders and all look fat and not impressive. In fact if the HW division is THAT much worse in 30-40 years, the division will be dead.

Fair point, BB! I was being just a mite bit facetious.

How many boxing fans does it take to change a light-bulb?

Answer: Ten. One to change the light-bulb and nine to talk about how great the old one was.

(Sorry!)

[Bomp]

Fair point, BB! I was being just a mite bit facetious.

How many boxing fans does it take to change a light-bulb?

Answer: Ten. One to change the light-bulb and nine to talk about how great the old one was.

(Sorry!)

I see your point Barlick about fans, but I just don't think it'll ever apply to the current heavy bunch. Just watched part of the Chagaev-Skelton fight today and it was embarrassing, Skelton can't even throw a punch nowadays and he was bloody competitive.