Will Wlad Klitchsko enter P4P top ten if he beats Ibragimov??

[Mikkel_K]

Okay if he wins this unification fight it means he would own the WBO,IBF,IBO and The Ring Heavyweight championship belts and also the wins he has over Brock, Peter, Bryd, McCline, Brewster etc and Ibragimov so would that be enough for him to sneak into top ten P4P.

Are you sure he will own The Ring Heavyweight Championship?

He doesnt at the moment, and Ibragimov is only ranked 6th by The Ring, so it doesnt fit with their usual policy (= the belt is given only to the winner of #1 vs. #2 or - if no. 2 & 3 are considered pretty much equal - #1 vs. #3).

(It doesnt actually matter as for the point you are trying to make - your post just left me wondering)

[Pugilistic]

i believe he should, he is clearly the best heavyweight in the division no matter how poor it is at the moment.

[Kirkland Laing]

No. He lost to a South African journeyman and wouldn't get back in the ring with him to avenge the defeat. No real champion would have avoided that fight. No even credible chllenger either. The heavyweight division is a shower of shit right now, as evidenced by the fact that 40 year old fat boy Matt Skelton (full-time removal man and part time boxer) gave one of the belt holders whose name ends in ov a relatively close fight recently. Vlad is just the biggest pile of shit in a shit division. Discussing whether somebody who lost to Corrie Sanders and then wouldn't face him again is a pound for pound guy is nuts. He isn't even close to being a legitimate champion, even if he's the top pile of shit right now at heavyweight.

[boozeboxer]

i believe he should, he is clearly the best heavyweight in the division no matter how poor it is at the moment.

How is being the best in a division make you P4P?

[leftylee]

Are you sure he will own The Ring Heavyweight Championship?

He doesnt at the moment, and Ibragimov is only ranked 6th by The Ring, so it doesnt fit with their usual policy (= the belt is given only to the winner of #1 vs. #2 or - if no. 2 & 3 are considered pretty much equal - #1 vs. #3).

(It doesnt actually matter as for the point you are trying to make - your post just left me wondering)

No problem mate.

I heard if he does then yes he wins the vacant Ring heavyweight belt as they are awarded also for Unified Champions i.e David Haye, Ricky Hatton etc and Wlad would own the WBO and IBF so he would become Ring champ.

[uptoscratch]

No problem mate.

I heard if he does then yes he wins the vacant Ring heavyweight belt as they are awarded also for Unified Champions i.e David Haye, Ricky Hatton etc and Wlad would own the WBO and IBF so he would become Ring champ.

I don't think that's how it works. Hatton was Ring champ when he beat Kostya Tszyu because Tszyu was the previous Ring champ.

I think Wlad would have to beat the Peter/Maskaev winner to be Ring champ, since that guy would have the #2 ranking. If he did that, he'd also have a case for PFP recognition, as far as the thread topic goes.

[leftylee]

I don't think that's how it works. Hatton was Ring champ when he beat Kostya Tszyu because Tszyu was the previous Ring champ.

I think Wlad would have to beat the Peter/Maskaev winner to be Ring champ, since that guy would have the #2 ranking. If he did that, he'd also have a case for PFP recognition, as far as the thread topic goes.

Your right, I just checked my latest Ring mag and it stated that belts are only awarded when #1 faces #2 or in certain circumstances #1 faces #3.

Sorry about that fellas.

[Mikkel_K]

Your right, I just checked my latest Ring mag and it stated that belts are only awarded when #1 faces #2 or in certain circumstances #1 faces #3.

Sorry about that fellas.

No problem

As for his p4p-status, you could argue that he doesnt really prove anything by beating Peter (Ring no. 2) again anyway. But even if we all know Wlad's the man, it would help his status to finally clear out his division (Calzaghe did that before really moving up the ranks btw). Beating Ibrag is a step on the way, but only a step imo.