Ronald Wilson Reagan=Scumball

[El Kabong]

Conspiracy theory hell,they were threatening to sue
Which is odd,because she was two months pregnant when she hooked up with Ronnie
But it was before the game had really taken off so they probably figured it was alot easier to go with the flow and pull the question
I mean we are talking about a couple of board game designers,not Huey P Newton
Was I the only person awake during the 80's?

....you can spout all this hate about Reagan you want to but it won't change the FACT that if Reagan could have run for a 3rd term and if he was healthy enough to the people would have elected him and by LANDSLIDE margins....how many Presidents can you say that about? I can only think of FDR

[Trainer Monkey]

....you can spout all this hate about Reagan you want to but it won't change the FACT that if Reagan could have run for a 3rd term and if he was healthy enough to the people would have elected him and by LANDSLIDE margins....how many Presidents can you say that about? I can only think of FDR

Actually no he wouldnt have
They floated the idea,but Iran-Contra was breaking at the time,he would have been beaten by a retarded golden retriever at the time

[El Kabong]

Actually no he wouldnt have
They floated the idea,but Iran-Contra was breaking at the time,he would have been beaten by a retarded golden retriever at the time

Reagan's approval rating was still at 44% during the Iran-Contra scandal...which is still really god damn good considering how many people such as yourself seemed to hate him.....and today George W. Bush and the Democratic Congress would do ANYTHING for that kind of approval rating


And the Democrats ran Dukakis in 1988 so I don't really see the difference between him and a retarded golden retriever.


Nice try though

[CFH]

I hate the Republicans even more than I hate the Democrats, so I am by no means a Reagan fan, but even I have to give him credit for his role in bringing down the U.S.S.R.

[the wiz]

I'd vote for a dead Reagan before I'd vote for most of these guys out there

[Trainer Monkey]

I hate the Republicans even more than I hate the Democrats, so I am by no means a Reagan fan, but even I have to give him credit for his role in bringing down the U.S.S.R.

Give more credit to Elton John Records,and smuggled Levi's
It was more the desire for western freedoms,then anything that Reagan did that brought down the USSR
Not to mention the Berlin Wall actually fell during Bush Sr's Precidency,not Reagans
Even then,how much better off are we?
Between the unsecured nukes,a Russian economy that doesnt have the resources to support capatilism,and the now huge Russian Mob.
At least before Reagan,we knew who had their finger on the button over there,now we dont even know who has the button

[CFH]

Give more credit to Elton John Records,and smuggled Levi's
It was more the desire for western freedoms,then anything that Reagan did that brought down the USSR
Not to mention the Berlin Wall actually fell during Bush Sr's Precidency,not Reagans
Even then,how much better off are we?
Between the unsecured nukes,a Russian economy that doesnt have the resources to support capatilism,and the now huge Russian Mob.
At least before Reagan,we knew who had their finger on the button over there,now we dont even know who has the button

It was a calculated program of sustained military expansion that the U.S government knew the U.S.S.R. had no choice but to attempt to keep up with, while knowing that the economic situation of the U.S.S.R. would not allow for it.
The Russian's desire for "western freedoms", while no doubt playing a minor role, could not have toppled the Soviet Union. There was absolutely no history of democracy in Russia, and many would argue that there isn't democracy in Russia now.

[Trainer Monkey]

It was a calculated program of sustained military expansion that the U.S government knew the U.S.S.R. had no choice but to attempt to keep up with, while knowing that the economic situation of the U.S.S.R. would not allow for it.
The Russian's desire for "western freedoms", while no doubt playing a minor role, could not have toppled the Soviet Union. There was absolutely no history of democracy in Russia, and many would argue that there isn't democracy in Russia now.

No it wasnt,but that is the myth
We were actually pulling missiles under SALT
Its a myth,Reagan either couldnt find his ass with both hands and a map,or he blaimed all his failings on everyone else
Sorry,Reagan is a fairytale
If you were actually paying attention in the 80's,Reagan was like Bush but without the Senates rubber stamp,and a better ability to deliver his lines

[Kirkland Laing]

It was a calculated program of sustained military expansion that the U.S government knew the U.S.S.R. had no choice but to attempt to keep up with, while knowing that the economic situation of the U.S.S.R. would not allow for it.
The Russian's desire for "western freedoms", while no doubt playing a minor role, could not have toppled the Soviet Union. There was absolutely no history of democracy in Russia, and many would argue that there isn't democracy in Russia now.

When Reagan started to build up military spending the USSR carried on its merry way. By the time Gorbachov came to power the US was running huge deficits partly as a result of military spending and was actually in a worse position than it had been in 1980. Gorbachov could easily have kept on with the cold war but was the head of a new breed of Soviet leaders who wanted to spend their economic resources contructively. What really got the Soviets to change their mind was the Saudis flooding the world market with oil, bankrupting the Soviets. Capitalism won the cold war, not Reagan. Here's the very capitalist AEI to explain it :

The timeline of the collapse of the Soviet Union can be traced to September 13, 1985. On this date, Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani, the minister of oil of Saudi Arabia, declared that the monarchy had decided to alter its oil policy radically. The Saudis stopped protecting oil prices, and Saudi Arabia quickly regained its share in the world market. During the next six months, oil production in Saudi Arabia increased fourfold, while oil prices collapsed by approximately the same amount in real terms.
As a result, the Soviet Union lost approximately $20 billion per year, money without which the country simply could not survive.
[The Soviet leadership was then faced with three options: start charging hard currency for oil exports, reduce food imports, or cut back military spending. None of them were seriously considered.]
Unable to realize any of the above solutions, the Soviet leadership...started to borrow money from abroad while its international credit rating was still strong. It borrowed heavily from 1985 to 1988, but in 1989 the Soviet economy stalled completely....The Soviet Union then received a final warning from the Deutsche Bank and from its international partners that the funds would never come from commercial sources. Instead, if the Soviet Union urgently needed the money, it would have to start negotiations directly with Western governments about so-called politically motivated credits.
....When the situation in the Soviet Union is examined from financial and hard currency perspectives, Gorbachev's policies at the time are much easier to comprehend (see figure 6). Government-to-government loans were bound to come with a number of rigid conditions. For instance, if the Soviet military crushed Solidarity Party demonstrations in Warsaw, the Soviet Union would not have received the desperately needed $100 billion from the West.
The only option left for the Soviet elites was to begin immediate negotiations about the conditions of surrender. Gorbachev did not have to inform President George H. W. Bush at the Malta Summit in 1989 that the threat of force to support the communist regimes in Eastern Europe would not be employed. This was already evident at the time. Six weeks after the talks, no communist regime in Eastern Europe remained.

AEI - Short Publications

[Trainer Monkey]

Reagan's approval rating was still at 44% during the Iran-Contra scandal...which is still really god damn good considering how many people such as yourself seemed to hate him.....and today George W. Bush and the Democratic Congress would do ANYTHING for that kind of approval rating


And the Democrats ran Dukakis in 1988 so I don't really see the difference between him and a retarded golden retriever.


Nice try though

Actually it was 34%,and it took dirty tactics so low Lee Atwater had a death bed confession over them(this is very true) to get Bush the elder elected