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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    Although I didnt post any predictions, I spent the better part of my week trying to explain to my friends why I though Quintana would win.

    It had nothing to do with Paul but everything to with how good Quintana is. I think he beats any welter not named Cotto or floyd with relative ease. He is a supreme boxer and will continue to win when people say he's supposed to lose.

    Paul is still the same guy and he'll continue to win.

    Quintana is just that good.
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    so what that says of Joel Julio right now? does he deserves a chance to fight any of the good fighters at WW
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    I for one am guilty of overestimating Williams, I thought he would cruise to a UD victory.
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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    Quintana deserves all the credit. He was definitely underestimated. I think he crumbled against Cotto.

    Let's not forget...
    Williams had a 7 month layoff, and before that Goosen had him fighting every 8 weeks. I look forward to the rematch. DiBella says it is Paul's if he asks for it.

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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    Qunitana wasn't thought of much after the Cotto loss. But I think Williams was a bit overestimated. Margarito would of won if he started throwing pnuches earlier. Besides that, who did Williams really fight before this. It is a marvel how someone that tall can make 147, but as far a a great boxer I don't see it.

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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    it was both, williams was overrated and quintana was overlooked


    i dont understand why wiliams was such a huge favorite, i guess it was mostly the hype that he got from the margarito fight,



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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    It's just a classic case of styles making fights. Quintana didn't become a different fighter since the Cotto fight, Williams didn't become a different fighter, or have any more trouble making weight, than he was/did against Margarito. Imo Quintana just can't take it to the body very well, and Cotto is a wicked body attacker in general. He get's sick leverage and power behind great kidney and liver shots.. Paul Williams can't punch half as hard. On top of that, Williams has huge lapses in defence and throws winging pitter pat shots, generating very little power in general, and especially little to the body. Quintana really didn't show anything more against Williams than he did against Cotto, Miguel just kept him a whole lot more wary and hurt him a lot more, as well as having the tighter defence. Quintana still was a hell of a slick boxer capable of landing his own shots and controlling a fight when he fought Cotto. Williams just isn't going to be able to do that well with good boxers if you ask me. Quintana was really the only guy he's faced who could move, counter and had any slickness.

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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    i overated williams and underated quintana, i knew he was talented but didn't think he could deal with the high workrate and length of williams, he proved me wrong

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    Default Re: Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making

    Hey guys, thanks for your posts.

    For my part I don't think I overrated Williams and I still think he can beat most of the welterweights. But I certanly underrated Quintana.

    I knew he was a good boxer and I saw his performance against Joel Julio and was impressed. But I didn't put that much stock in it cause Joel Julio is still not that great of a fighter. Also what I saw in the Cotto fight made me question Quintana's will to win. Not to mention a beat down like that can really ruin a fighter.

    I knew Quintana would make it a tougher fight than most predicted but I figured Williams would take it on work rate alone and towards the end Quintana would get discurraged. Actually I still felt that was going to happend around the 5th and 6th round when Quintana looked to be gassing out.

    All propps to the man for regaining control and finishing strong.

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