Did we overestimated Williams or Underestimated Quintana. Question on odds making.

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

I for one am guilty of overestimating Williams, I thought he would cruise to a UD victory.

[ArawakWarria]

Quintana deserves all the credit. He was definitely underestimated. I think he crumbled against Cotto.

Let's not forget...
Williams had a 7 month layoff, and before that Goosen had him fighting every 8 weeks. I look forward to the rematch. DiBella says it is Paul's if he asks for it.

[the wiz]

Qunitana wasn't thought of much after the Cotto loss. But I think Williams was a bit overestimated. Margarito would of won if he started throwing pnuches earlier. Besides that, who did Williams really fight before this. It is a marvel how someone that tall can make 147, but as far a a great boxer I don't see it.

[SalTheButcher]

it was both, williams was overrated and quintana was overlooked


i dont understand why wiliams was such a huge favorite, i guess it was mostly the hype that he got from the margarito fight,



fuck man, im pilled up, i copped the flu and took a vicodin, fuck the flu

[p4pking]

It's just a classic case of styles making fights. Quintana didn't become a different fighter since the Cotto fight, Williams didn't become a different fighter, or have any more trouble making weight, than he was/did against Margarito. Imo Quintana just can't take it to the body very well, and Cotto is a wicked body attacker in general. He get's sick leverage and power behind great kidney and liver shots.. Paul Williams can't punch half as hard. On top of that, Williams has huge lapses in defence and throws winging pitter pat shots, generating very little power in general, and especially little to the body. Quintana really didn't show anything more against Williams than he did against Cotto, Miguel just kept him a whole lot more wary and hurt him a lot more, as well as having the tighter defence. Quintana still was a hell of a slick boxer capable of landing his own shots and controlling a fight when he fought Cotto. Williams just isn't going to be able to do that well with good boxers if you ask me. Quintana was really the only guy he's faced who could move, counter and had any slickness.

[Pugilistic]

i overated williams and underated quintana, i knew he was talented but didn't think he could deal with the high workrate and length of williams, he proved me wrong

[The Rookie Fan]

Hey guys, thanks for your posts.

For my part I don't think I overrated Williams and I still think he can beat most of the welterweights. But I certanly underrated Quintana.

I knew he was a good boxer and I saw his performance against Joel Julio and was impressed. But I didn't put that much stock in it cause Joel Julio is still not that great of a fighter. Also what I saw in the Cotto fight made me question Quintana's will to win. Not to mention a beat down like that can really ruin a fighter.

I knew Quintana would make it a tougher fight than most predicted but I figured Williams would take it on work rate alone and towards the end Quintana would get discurraged. Actually I still felt that was going to happend around the 5th and 6th round when Quintana looked to be gassing out.

All propps to the man for regaining control and finishing strong.

[Bomp]

I think Williams underrated quintana, and overestimated himself after his Margarito win. He viewed Quintana as the only guy WILLING to fight him, rather than the toughest opponent he could face.

[SalTheButcher]

i dont understand how quintana was like +675, but maybe he was obscure to most people, and maybe he made julio look so bad that people thought julio was nothing

[p4pking]

Hey guys, thanks for your posts.

For my part I don't think I overrated Williams and I still think he can beat most of the welterweights. But I certanly underrated Quintana.

I knew he was a good boxer and I saw his performance against Joel Julio and was impressed. But I didn't put that much stock in it cause Joel Julio is still not that great of a fighter. Also what I saw in the Cotto fight made me question Quintana's will to win. Not to mention a beat down like that can really ruin a fighter.

I knew Quintana would make it a tougher fight than most predicted but I figured Williams would take it on work rate alone and towards the end Quintana would get discurraged. Actually I still felt that was going to happend around the 5th and 6th round when Quintana looked to be gassing out.

All propps to the man for regaining control and finishing strong.

I'd now have him as an underdog against just about any of the top 10, honestly. Floyd, Cotto, Quintana, Margarito if they fought again even, Collazo, Clottey, Cintron, Mosley, even Judah. I think they are all more than capable of beating Williams, especially now that they saw what Carlos did to him.

[WelshDevilRob]

I think abit of both. I definately believe that Williams camp thought this was a dead cert win for there man and they underestimated a highly motivated fighter in Quintana.