Pavlik Vs Taylor 2, Bilbo's rbr

[SweetPea]

I hope we don't see Taylor tuck tail and get on his bike for 12 rounds because if we do Jermain won't be effective going backwards, he'll be more concerned preventing himself getting starched. Taylor should come out like he did in the first fight, only this time make sure his chin is down and his defense is tighter. Jermain has a bigger arsenal than Kelly, he has more dimensions.

Pavlik will probably get to him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor got to him - a lot of people have forgotten the second round

Interesting analysis.

P.S. This fight already happened.

[The_Mac10]

Haha, I just noticed that after I posted.

Hungover.

[SweetPea]

Haha, I just noticed that after I posted.

Hungover.

What's your prediction for Jones-Trinidad?

[El Gamo]

I thought 115-113 was the right score,it's how I had it. I don't see how anyone could have JT winning I'm afraid,draw at best. Why? Kelly Pavlik worked three minutes of 99% of that fight. Towards the end,I'd say last 3 rounds,JT was throwing much less,landing much less and more importantly,NOT using his jab. The guys that scored the fight for JT are the guys that score last minutes flurries or eye catching punches whereas Kelly was consistent.

How can you give a round to JT when he throws 10 punches in the last 30 seconds when Pavlik has been jabbing his ass off for the preceding 2minutes? Both showed improved defence,I would like to have seen Kelly go the body more though. The most anyone was in the fight was when Kelly dug that right hand in on JT to the body and JT held on.

Excellent boxing match.

[Andre]

Couldnt catch this one,good job Bilbo and crew; have some more rep.

[richard (mossley)]

In my view it was a real mistake for Taylor to take the rematch without a fight prior to it. Taylor was well aware of Pavliks power from the first fight and fought like a scared kitten because of it. He kept his distance too much and wasnt prepared to take risks that he should have done.

As well as this Pavlik actually boxed better this time. His left jab dominated the contest, and he won a lot of rounds 6-11 because of it. The first fight should have been won by Taylor in my view after the second round and he was up on the score cards in my view. I expected Taylor to dominate this fight as a result and maybe win on points and I thought it would take another Pavlik knockout to win.

I am disappointed in the amount of effort Taylor put in and his lack of risk taking. He actually had some success when he bothered himself to attack Pavliks body. Yet he failed to maintain this.

Neither fighter ever got in serious trouble. Taylor was not that badly hurt in the 11th on the ropes.

Pavlik good fighter, great technique. Hope he doesnt bother with the circus fight with Trinidad, should try to unite middleweight. If he bothers fighting Calzaghe, he will get boxed apart.

[Tysonbruno]

It was a good fight from both fighters 115-113 was right it could have even been a draw some rounds were close but 117-111 was a disgrace.

[Jesse James]

I thought 115-113 was the right score,it's how I had it. I don't see how anyone could have JT winning I'm afraid,draw at best. Why? Kelly Pavlik worked three minutes of 99% of that fight. Towards the end,I'd say last 3 rounds,JT was throwing much less,landing much less and more importantly,NOT using his jab. The guys that scored the fight for JT are the guys that score last minutes flurries or eye catching punches whereas Kelly was consistent.

How can you give a round to JT when he throws 10 punches in the last 30 seconds when Pavlik has been jabbing his ass off for the preceding 2minutes? Both showed improved defence,I would like to have seen Kelly go the body more though. The most anyone was in the fight was when Kelly dug that right hand in on JT to the body and JT held on.

Excellent boxing match.

Exactly. JT could have won but he didn't throw nearly enough punches. How the hell can someone say that punch stats don't matter? I thought the object of boxing was to hit the other guy more than he hits you! You can't win a fight by throwing only 30 punches a round and landing 10 of them when the other guy is 25 for 80. Kelly outworked JT, period. Jermain won some rounds by landing the bigger shots, but that only works if the rounds are very close. 2 or 3 big shots don't erase the previous 20 that you got hit with. Anyways, I thought the fight was relatively boring, compared to the first one, they were both very cautious.

[El Gamo]

Exactly. JT could have won but he didn't throw nearly enough punches. How the hell can someone say that punch stats don't matter? I thought the object of boxing was to hit the other guy more than he hits you! You can't win a fight by throwing only 30 punches a round and landing 10 of them when the other guy is 25 for 80. Kelly outworked JT, period. Jermain won some rounds by landing the bigger shots, but that only works if the rounds are very close. 2 or 3 big shots don't erase the previous 20 that you got hit with. Anyways, I thought the fight was relatively boring, compared to the first one, they were both very cautious.

Excellent points,have some rep on me. I've said it before and I'll say it again:sometimes punch stats mean nothing in a fight,on other occasions,they tell you the whole story. I think it was the latter with this fight. Kelly threw more,landed more,landed more jabs and it's not as if the punches were concentrated in 1 or 2 rounds,he was consistently outlanding Taylor.And outworking him.

I'll say it again,I don't see how anyone can give that fight to Taylor.I don't really see any convincing arguments for it either.

[No Contest]

Wacko if you are looking at this we miss you and wish you would come back.

Apparently Wacko has a life or something Yes, we want him back, but give the guy a break, he was doing every fight every weekend for awhile...

[thewhale]

I dont see you can take Pavlik Hope Taylor goes too SWM and takes on Kessler.

[LEGION]

I dont see you can take Pavlik Hope Taylor goes too SWM and takes on Kessler.

Damn, where you been at BlubberBoy? Haven't seen you in a while

[SweetPea]

I had Pavlik winning a close, very competitive fight. 115-113 is about right, 116-112 would be OK too.

I don't get the people who are criticizing Jermain and saying he was gun-shy. I thought he fought very well for someone who had been KO'd 4 months ago by the same opponent. He fought very well but ran out of gas towards the end.

Pavlik never did anything spectacular but he was consistently active and effective. It was a workmanlike performance.

Overall, it was a good fight and both guys performed well.

[Kev]

As you can see from rbr I had Taylor ahead by about 3 points at one point. In my opinion though Pavlik swept the latter rounds and won by a single point on my card.

Interestingly the judges cards are up on fightnews and all three had Pavlik sweeping the last 3 - 5 rounds. He was behind on all cards up to those last rounds which was exactly my assessment as well.

The more accurate, sharper punches were landed by Taylor, however the volume and consistent output were with Pavlik.

I think 115-113 was about right, I scored it 115-114 I think as I had one round even.

Very tough fight to score but certainly no robbery. And for the record even Taylor has said he respects the decision.

[thewhale]

Damn, where you been at BlubberBoy? Haven't seen you in a while

haha got TKO by work, not workout though. But blubberboy here floats Nice to be back again.

Eventhough the janorgie stole my avatar But it always nice to see that Kessler did hit Calzaghe.